I kept my maiden name at marriage, it was something i had always said i would do. I'm proud of who i married, but i don't believe in changing my last name because i don't ';belong'; to my husband. Is there certain benefits i may miss out later in life for not changing my last name? I've been married 13yrs.Is there certain benefits for changing your last name at marriage?
The only thing that comes to mind is when you have children. Would they have your last name or his? You could use both names and that would solve that problem.Is there certain benefits for changing your last name at marriage?
So you don't ';belong'; to him, eh? Any wife who isn't submissive to her husband isn't much of a wife at all. Keeping your maiden name out of spite %26amp; attitude only reflects your detachment from him. Taking your husband's name states a dedication to him, not ownership. ~;/%26gt;
I am not aware of any benefits. My wife did not change her name and I could not care less, it's just a name.
hm... I would have thought after 13 years you would have figured this out already...
Friday, November 25, 2011
True or False: It takes two nutjobs to make a marriage work properly?
For example believing that you have to stick to the good ol vows till death and that you're supposed to be unnaturally happy all the time or there's something wrong.
Am I right?True or False: It takes two nutjobs to make a marriage work properly?
Hubby and I are sometimes considered nutjobs because we are still in love after 17 years together and 12 years of marriage. So in a nutshell, I will say yes.True or False: It takes two nutjobs to make a marriage work properly?
No hon... it takes two ADULTS...
Nothing is perfect and no one is perfect. Expecting perfection dooms marriage or any relationship really. I don't expect my man to be perfect and he doesn't expect it from me either. He is not responsible for my happiness and I am not responsible for his. We accept that fact. We must have something right because we have been married for over 30 years. Hope things are good for you!
Blessings.
If your not happy all the time, then obviously your relationship is not going to work. People have there issues that need to be worked out from time to time to make there marriage work but it can't be just one of you trying.Good luck to you in your decision making!!
IDK, I am laying in the bed with my nutjob and both of us are getting pretty drunk, at least I think I am getting drunk. I think I'll have one more and I am pretty sure I will get there. My nutjob says that he is naturally happy. Thank God for spell check so I don't have to think so much.
You are on a roll tonight with your marriage questions - why don't you just go ahead and ask the question you want to ask rather than all these little questions about marriage. lol....and yes, it does take two nutjobs to make a marriage work. :)
No, some people feel that is a normal, but that could just be me thinking that, your not a nut job if your happy after all those years, maybe the ones thinking that are the real nut jobs, ever think of that?
False
no, you are not right.
Marriage is also about sacrifice, you will sacrifice some things that make you happy just to make the love of your life happy. This should apply to both not only one person in the marriage.
in a healthy relationship you have to disagree sometimes....there is not such things as a perfect relationship. So far you could say one nut job and another person could have a relation ship..so i say false :)
False. Maybe true. Idk
100%
I'm perfectly sane, so you must be right.oil industry
Am I right?True or False: It takes two nutjobs to make a marriage work properly?
Hubby and I are sometimes considered nutjobs because we are still in love after 17 years together and 12 years of marriage. So in a nutshell, I will say yes.True or False: It takes two nutjobs to make a marriage work properly?
No hon... it takes two ADULTS...
Nothing is perfect and no one is perfect. Expecting perfection dooms marriage or any relationship really. I don't expect my man to be perfect and he doesn't expect it from me either. He is not responsible for my happiness and I am not responsible for his. We accept that fact. We must have something right because we have been married for over 30 years. Hope things are good for you!
Blessings.
If your not happy all the time, then obviously your relationship is not going to work. People have there issues that need to be worked out from time to time to make there marriage work but it can't be just one of you trying.Good luck to you in your decision making!!
IDK, I am laying in the bed with my nutjob and both of us are getting pretty drunk, at least I think I am getting drunk. I think I'll have one more and I am pretty sure I will get there. My nutjob says that he is naturally happy. Thank God for spell check so I don't have to think so much.
You are on a roll tonight with your marriage questions - why don't you just go ahead and ask the question you want to ask rather than all these little questions about marriage. lol....and yes, it does take two nutjobs to make a marriage work. :)
No, some people feel that is a normal, but that could just be me thinking that, your not a nut job if your happy after all those years, maybe the ones thinking that are the real nut jobs, ever think of that?
False
no, you are not right.
Marriage is also about sacrifice, you will sacrifice some things that make you happy just to make the love of your life happy. This should apply to both not only one person in the marriage.
in a healthy relationship you have to disagree sometimes....there is not such things as a perfect relationship. So far you could say one nut job and another person could have a relation ship..so i say false :)
False. Maybe true. Idk
100%
I'm perfectly sane, so you must be right.
Why are some people afraid that gay marriage threatens marriage between a man and a woman?
It wouldn't affect them, right?Why are some people afraid that gay marriage threatens marriage between a man and a woman?
No intelligent person actually thinks gay marriage will in any way harm heterosexual marriage. Those who say they feel that way are either lying or they're really stupid (or both). This is just another crazy scare tactic that the bigots who oppose same-sex marriage have used to sway people to their side.Why are some people afraid that gay marriage threatens marriage between a man and a woman?
If they do, they are being illogical and dim. However, some oppose gay marriage not because they feel threatened, but because they are scared to change a standard that is thousands of years old. In a way, this fear of change is human nature. I'm being neutral here, so please, nobody leap at me with your fangs out.
Bigots are not capable of rational thought.
';The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, or on any pretence, infringed.'' - James Madison (Original wording of the First Amendment; Annals of Congress 434 (June 8, 1789).)
they aren't
when they say that
what they really mean is ';i hate gay people and i think their immoral so i don't want them to get married';
it has nothing to do with the sanctity of marriage. if it did then theyd be getting rid of divorce
Honestly, I still haven't figured it out. I never felt threatened by same-sex marriage when I was in an opposite-sex marriage. Their marriages didn't effect my marriage.
because their old fashioned and not open minded
Because is their comfort zone and they know nothing but that box that been living in all their life
it shouldnt
No intelligent person actually thinks gay marriage will in any way harm heterosexual marriage. Those who say they feel that way are either lying or they're really stupid (or both). This is just another crazy scare tactic that the bigots who oppose same-sex marriage have used to sway people to their side.Why are some people afraid that gay marriage threatens marriage between a man and a woman?
If they do, they are being illogical and dim. However, some oppose gay marriage not because they feel threatened, but because they are scared to change a standard that is thousands of years old. In a way, this fear of change is human nature. I'm being neutral here, so please, nobody leap at me with your fangs out.
Bigots are not capable of rational thought.
';The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, or on any pretence, infringed.'' - James Madison (Original wording of the First Amendment; Annals of Congress 434 (June 8, 1789).)
they aren't
when they say that
what they really mean is ';i hate gay people and i think their immoral so i don't want them to get married';
it has nothing to do with the sanctity of marriage. if it did then theyd be getting rid of divorce
Honestly, I still haven't figured it out. I never felt threatened by same-sex marriage when I was in an opposite-sex marriage. Their marriages didn't effect my marriage.
because their old fashioned and not open minded
Because is their comfort zone and they know nothing but that box that been living in all their life
it shouldnt
How do Fundamentalists feel,knowing they have lost the ';Gay Marriage'; battle?
It's only three states now,this I know.But the support for the State Sponsored Enforcement of Religious Beliefs through Gay Marriage Bans and such is waning by the day,and while before you could just say it's the kooks on the Coasts,now Iowa?
It's over,whether it takes a few more years or 20 more years,the writing is on the wall.
Now we as a Nation could move forward toward solving real problems,Agree?How do Fundamentalists feel,knowing they have lost the ';Gay Marriage'; battle?
The gay marriage debate isn't about marriage. It's about conservatives wanting gays back in the closet, door shut, bolted and nailed tight. However they can't come out and say that without sounding like hypocritical bigots so they focus on gay marriage and attempt to scare people by saying that gay marriage will destroy society. The republicans also use the issue in a disingenuous attempt to make themselves appear to be morally superior to Democrats. People aren't going to become gay just because gays can get married and couples that would get married are most likely already couples. Gays getting married doesn't affect the marriages of heterosexuals so at the end of the day what difference does it make?How do Fundamentalists feel,knowing they have lost the ';Gay Marriage'; battle?
The Fundies haven't quite figured out that what you're saying is true so they will institute a really un-Christian scorched -earth policy on the way to their inevitable defeat
The Fundies apparently don't understand that we live in a very mobile society [which makes the whole idea of states rights an anachronism ] and as such not making a gay marriage a federal issue in effect ghettoizes the sanctity of marriage that they allegedly want to protect.
Case in point:
If a gay couple who is legally married in Vermont foolishly decides to go backpacking in Utah and has an accident while hiking ,the doctors at the Utah hospital where they were taken would not have to allow one spouse their legal right to make the decision to disconnect life support from the other spouse.
The end result is that gay couples will only be able to live as and travel to the states where their marriages are legal%26gt;aka ghettoizing
Yes, it may take another 20 years before gays are accepted as being born that way and discrimination against them will be outlawed. It took at least 20 years before laws discriminating against blacks even BEGAN to take effect, and a lot longer than that for it to take hold everywhere. And even so, there are many fundamentalists who disagree with it, especially in the South. I live here in the South, it's true.
It takes a long time to change ignorance and hate.
How cool is it that your current handle is ';Angel of Death';!
This is exactly the kind of advice in the form of question sure to boost up your industry. Good marketing!
Marriage is a duty of man and each must find his woman and marry and bring about a ';next'; generation. Being a death lover you would know that. Better for you to leave the earth barren of humanity when all chase after erotic pleasures selfishly, leaving no future -- just billions dead souls bansheeing about the globe in an eternal feral lust that grows and grows each time it is attempted to be satisfied.
Pleases you, eh? You betcha!
Not me. I''m not the fool you have of yourself. Most of us are not fooled.
We've indulged you fools too much already.
* * *
The above is poetic metaphor. I'm no Christian -- but I am proud to be fundamentalist!
You do realize 29 states have constitutionally defined marriage as one man and one woman, right?
And you realize when put to the democratic process, to the voters not the judges, that marriage has always been defined as one man and one woman in the US, right?
Hahahaha lol
'; Do not be deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, NOR HOMOSEXUALS.....shall inherit the kingdom of God ......'; I Corin. 6:9
The funny thing is they will never give it up. Just like they'll never give up the fight against abortion even though it has been legal for decades.
decades from now their children will look back on this period and be ashamed of us. Just as we look back on a pre-1964 America on racial equality in shame.
God knows whats going on down here, He will prevail!! soon, its all ready starting. the disease, wait and see!! this is only the tip of the iceberg!!!!
I - as a Christian - feel that the world is continuing to get worse all the time..............just as the Bible says it will, my friend.................
3 States out of 50. Doesn't look like the cause is lost. Sounds like wishful thinking on your part.
its not over tills its over
Your avatar name says it all.
Nope. This battle may be won, but you have already lost the war.
sorry not going to happen gay marriage is wrong and suck
It seems the Birthing Pains are drawing closer.
Good luck...don't accept the mark.
Probably as bad as they felt when all the bigoted interracial marriage bans they fought so hard for were overturned.
http://www.stopthereligiousright.org/mis鈥?/a>
They will manage to get over it this time too.
It's over,whether it takes a few more years or 20 more years,the writing is on the wall.
Now we as a Nation could move forward toward solving real problems,Agree?How do Fundamentalists feel,knowing they have lost the ';Gay Marriage'; battle?
The gay marriage debate isn't about marriage. It's about conservatives wanting gays back in the closet, door shut, bolted and nailed tight. However they can't come out and say that without sounding like hypocritical bigots so they focus on gay marriage and attempt to scare people by saying that gay marriage will destroy society. The republicans also use the issue in a disingenuous attempt to make themselves appear to be morally superior to Democrats. People aren't going to become gay just because gays can get married and couples that would get married are most likely already couples. Gays getting married doesn't affect the marriages of heterosexuals so at the end of the day what difference does it make?How do Fundamentalists feel,knowing they have lost the ';Gay Marriage'; battle?
The Fundies haven't quite figured out that what you're saying is true so they will institute a really un-Christian scorched -earth policy on the way to their inevitable defeat
The Fundies apparently don't understand that we live in a very mobile society [which makes the whole idea of states rights an anachronism ] and as such not making a gay marriage a federal issue in effect ghettoizes the sanctity of marriage that they allegedly want to protect.
Case in point:
If a gay couple who is legally married in Vermont foolishly decides to go backpacking in Utah and has an accident while hiking ,the doctors at the Utah hospital where they were taken would not have to allow one spouse their legal right to make the decision to disconnect life support from the other spouse.
The end result is that gay couples will only be able to live as and travel to the states where their marriages are legal%26gt;aka ghettoizing
Yes, it may take another 20 years before gays are accepted as being born that way and discrimination against them will be outlawed. It took at least 20 years before laws discriminating against blacks even BEGAN to take effect, and a lot longer than that for it to take hold everywhere. And even so, there are many fundamentalists who disagree with it, especially in the South. I live here in the South, it's true.
It takes a long time to change ignorance and hate.
How cool is it that your current handle is ';Angel of Death';!
This is exactly the kind of advice in the form of question sure to boost up your industry. Good marketing!
Marriage is a duty of man and each must find his woman and marry and bring about a ';next'; generation. Being a death lover you would know that. Better for you to leave the earth barren of humanity when all chase after erotic pleasures selfishly, leaving no future -- just billions dead souls bansheeing about the globe in an eternal feral lust that grows and grows each time it is attempted to be satisfied.
Pleases you, eh? You betcha!
Not me. I''m not the fool you have of yourself. Most of us are not fooled.
We've indulged you fools too much already.
* * *
The above is poetic metaphor. I'm no Christian -- but I am proud to be fundamentalist!
You do realize 29 states have constitutionally defined marriage as one man and one woman, right?
And you realize when put to the democratic process, to the voters not the judges, that marriage has always been defined as one man and one woman in the US, right?
Hahahaha lol
'; Do not be deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, NOR HOMOSEXUALS.....shall inherit the kingdom of God ......'; I Corin. 6:9
The funny thing is they will never give it up. Just like they'll never give up the fight against abortion even though it has been legal for decades.
decades from now their children will look back on this period and be ashamed of us. Just as we look back on a pre-1964 America on racial equality in shame.
God knows whats going on down here, He will prevail!! soon, its all ready starting. the disease, wait and see!! this is only the tip of the iceberg!!!!
I - as a Christian - feel that the world is continuing to get worse all the time..............just as the Bible says it will, my friend.................
3 States out of 50. Doesn't look like the cause is lost. Sounds like wishful thinking on your part.
its not over tills its over
Your avatar name says it all.
Nope. This battle may be won, but you have already lost the war.
sorry not going to happen gay marriage is wrong and suck
It seems the Birthing Pains are drawing closer.
Good luck...don't accept the mark.
Probably as bad as they felt when all the bigoted interracial marriage bans they fought so hard for were overturned.
http://www.stopthereligiousright.org/mis鈥?/a>
They will manage to get over it this time too.
How come women didn't get their inheritance money before marriage in British customs?
and this is about old times.How come women didn't get their inheritance money before marriage in British customs?
Wealthy families avoided giving land to women who were married or might marry b/c married women's lands automatically belonged to their husbands. The same was not always true of personal property (furniture, dresses, cash) as a legal matter, though as a practical matter the degree of wive's control over their own property varied.
You may be thinking of women's dowries? Money that was settled on the woman when she married and for which the bridegroom's family negotiated? It's a tough question w/a lot of different, nuanced answers. Many, if not most, cultures have included the practice of giving dowries at some time or another. My private theory is that marriage was such a bum deal that women who could support themselves w/o getting married would choose to remain single.How come women didn't get their inheritance money before marriage in British customs?
I think women could inherit things but if they married all their possessions became their husband's.
Basically because women were seen as second class citizens with no rights.
Wealthy families avoided giving land to women who were married or might marry b/c married women's lands automatically belonged to their husbands. The same was not always true of personal property (furniture, dresses, cash) as a legal matter, though as a practical matter the degree of wive's control over their own property varied.
You may be thinking of women's dowries? Money that was settled on the woman when she married and for which the bridegroom's family negotiated? It's a tough question w/a lot of different, nuanced answers. Many, if not most, cultures have included the practice of giving dowries at some time or another. My private theory is that marriage was such a bum deal that women who could support themselves w/o getting married would choose to remain single.How come women didn't get their inheritance money before marriage in British customs?
I think women could inherit things but if they married all their possessions became their husband's.
Basically because women were seen as second class citizens with no rights.
Question to all men out there (nothing against women) Does marriage counselling really work?
Question to all men out there (nothing against women) Does marriage counselling really work or do you think it does more harm?Question to all men out there (nothing against women) Does marriage counselling really work?
Not until you are both willing to admit that it is all your fault. BTW, you don't need marriage counseling until you can get your rage and anger issues under control, as you admit in a prior post that you hit your wife.
Marriage counseling will work if you really want to save your marriage and are willing to make some changes. If you are just expecting the counselor to agree with you and place all the blame on her then forget about it.Question to all men out there (nothing against women) Does marriage counselling really work?
I think counseling could be a yes or no answer. You have to want to make something work first of all. Counseling could only help you if you want to be helped. It doesn't matter what kind of counseling we are talking about. If there are problems in a marriage the couple will have to meet in the middle and comprise if they want something to work out. It could do more harm if the two people don't want to make it work. It will just cause more fighting and problems to ensue.
No.
Not until you are both willing to admit that it is all your fault. BTW, you don't need marriage counseling until you can get your rage and anger issues under control, as you admit in a prior post that you hit your wife.
Marriage counseling will work if you really want to save your marriage and are willing to make some changes. If you are just expecting the counselor to agree with you and place all the blame on her then forget about it.Question to all men out there (nothing against women) Does marriage counselling really work?
I think counseling could be a yes or no answer. You have to want to make something work first of all. Counseling could only help you if you want to be helped. It doesn't matter what kind of counseling we are talking about. If there are problems in a marriage the couple will have to meet in the middle and comprise if they want something to work out. It could do more harm if the two people don't want to make it work. It will just cause more fighting and problems to ensue.
No.
Can a consummated marriage with pregnancy be annuled?
My friend's marriage was consummated 5-6 times and now her husband wants to get rid of her and get remarried and try a virgin again after declaring marriage null and void on some basis framed by him. Is it legal to first try a virgin and then discard her and then try another virgin by remarrying?Can a consummated marriage with pregnancy be annuled?
Only if the she is pregnant by another man. The legal system must be involved. He can't annul his own marriage without going through legal channels. It is illegal and immoral almost everywhere.Can a consummated marriage with pregnancy be annuled?
if your friend is living in a male dominated muslim country then he's free to do what he wants and the woman has no say in the matter. in the u.s. and other western countries it's the women who have the upper hand.
An annulment is not an end to a marriage, it is merely official recognition that a marriage was never valid. It doesn't really matter that the marriage was consummated (although if it hadn't been, that alone would be grounds for annulment). I don't know if he has a case for annulment, but the consummation is not an obstacle to it.
Other valid reasons for annulment include incorrect submission of the marriage licence, or if there is an obstacle to it being a valid contract such as one party being a minor or mentally unfit.
sure, if the courts are male dominated...
Only if the she is pregnant by another man. The legal system must be involved. He can't annul his own marriage without going through legal channels. It is illegal and immoral almost everywhere.Can a consummated marriage with pregnancy be annuled?
if your friend is living in a male dominated muslim country then he's free to do what he wants and the woman has no say in the matter. in the u.s. and other western countries it's the women who have the upper hand.
An annulment is not an end to a marriage, it is merely official recognition that a marriage was never valid. It doesn't really matter that the marriage was consummated (although if it hadn't been, that alone would be grounds for annulment). I don't know if he has a case for annulment, but the consummation is not an obstacle to it.
Other valid reasons for annulment include incorrect submission of the marriage licence, or if there is an obstacle to it being a valid contract such as one party being a minor or mentally unfit.
sure, if the courts are male dominated...
How to declare marriage performed abroad in California?
I am a U.S. citizen who married an Italian in a Central American country. How do I declare my new married status in the United States? Stated differently, how do I make my marriage legally recognizable in my home state of California? How to declare marriage performed abroad in California?
Your marriage is already legally recognized in California. Your marriage license from the other country should satisfy any request for proof of marriage. If you require a California marriage license for some reason, you can file a petition in Superior Court to establish a Court Order Delayed
Certificate of Marriage.How to declare marriage performed abroad in California?
If it was legaly preformed in that country and followed all the rules then it it is recognized. If you want to be sure you can go to a us emassy and Consular officers may authenticate foreign marriage documents. The fee for authentication of a document is $32.00.oil industry
Your marriage is already legally recognized in California. Your marriage license from the other country should satisfy any request for proof of marriage. If you require a California marriage license for some reason, you can file a petition in Superior Court to establish a Court Order Delayed
Certificate of Marriage.How to declare marriage performed abroad in California?
If it was legaly preformed in that country and followed all the rules then it it is recognized. If you want to be sure you can go to a us emassy and Consular officers may authenticate foreign marriage documents. The fee for authentication of a document is $32.00.
What is the difference between a marraige license and a marriage certificate?
Marriage licence says you are allowed to get married, marriage certificate is what you get after you are married.What is the difference between a marraige license and a marriage certificate?
The marriage license shows that the couple is legally able to marry each other (of proper age, not currently married to someone else, etc). The marriage certificate shows that the ceremony has been completed and the couple is now, in fact married.
You can apply for and receive a marriage license and decide not to get married. It's legally necessary, but not legally binding.
In many states, the marriage license BECOMES the marriage certificate. The couple signs it before the wedding as a license, the officiant signs it afterward to prove the ceremony takes place, the couple takes it back to the courthouse, and that single document becomes the legal proof that their wedding took place.What is the difference between a marraige license and a marriage certificate?
The marriage license is the legal document you need in order to prove to the officiate who will join you two in matrimony that you both have permission from the State(county) to marry, and that there are no legal impediments as to why you can't....without this document the officiate can not marry you.
Now, the officiate must have this document at the wedding ceremony because immediately afterward (when it's convenient, of course) there is a place for him/her to sign, along with yourselves and two witnesses to indicate that the marriage did take place (exchange of vows) Then the signed marriage license is turned into the county/state where the marriage occured within in a set period of time so it can be registered (if there is no county/state record of a marriage it doesn't legally exist)....you will receive a Certificate of Marriage which is a document that proves you are married...and often you will receive the original marriage license back as well ( I did-NY state) good luck.
The ML precedes the MC.
You file for the ML in your local town hall 30-90 days before the wedding. Requirements vary depending of state (age, residence, etc.) and you have to pay a fee. Then the town hall will issue you a ML.
On your wedding day, bring the ML to your officiant (that must be licensed in the state where you are marrying) and he/she will sign the ML after the ceremony and return it to the town hall.
After receipt, the town hall will produce a marriage certificate, which is the legal document that shows that you are legally married.
Good luck
the license states you are allowed to get married in that state the certificate you get once you are married.
A license allows a couple to legally marry. A certificate proves that they are married.
The marriage license shows that the couple is legally able to marry each other (of proper age, not currently married to someone else, etc). The marriage certificate shows that the ceremony has been completed and the couple is now, in fact married.
You can apply for and receive a marriage license and decide not to get married. It's legally necessary, but not legally binding.
In many states, the marriage license BECOMES the marriage certificate. The couple signs it before the wedding as a license, the officiant signs it afterward to prove the ceremony takes place, the couple takes it back to the courthouse, and that single document becomes the legal proof that their wedding took place.What is the difference between a marraige license and a marriage certificate?
The marriage license is the legal document you need in order to prove to the officiate who will join you two in matrimony that you both have permission from the State(county) to marry, and that there are no legal impediments as to why you can't....without this document the officiate can not marry you.
Now, the officiate must have this document at the wedding ceremony because immediately afterward (when it's convenient, of course) there is a place for him/her to sign, along with yourselves and two witnesses to indicate that the marriage did take place (exchange of vows) Then the signed marriage license is turned into the county/state where the marriage occured within in a set period of time so it can be registered (if there is no county/state record of a marriage it doesn't legally exist)....you will receive a Certificate of Marriage which is a document that proves you are married...and often you will receive the original marriage license back as well ( I did-NY state) good luck.
The ML precedes the MC.
You file for the ML in your local town hall 30-90 days before the wedding. Requirements vary depending of state (age, residence, etc.) and you have to pay a fee. Then the town hall will issue you a ML.
On your wedding day, bring the ML to your officiant (that must be licensed in the state where you are marrying) and he/she will sign the ML after the ceremony and return it to the town hall.
After receipt, the town hall will produce a marriage certificate, which is the legal document that shows that you are legally married.
Good luck
the license states you are allowed to get married in that state the certificate you get once you are married.
A license allows a couple to legally marry. A certificate proves that they are married.
Do you think that California's new legalization of gay marriage is absolute caca?
I am kinda on the fence about it. It has pros, and cons. I am open to ideas.Do you think that California's new legalization of gay marriage is absolute caca?
I think its great. In this day and age people need to realize that being gay is not a choice, and homosexuals shouldn't be denied the right to get married and have the same rights as straight couples.
And what gets me is people saying ';oh they can be together, that's fine, but MARRIAGE is between a man and woman';. I've had this debate with my very conservative boyfriend, who thinks its biologically unnatural to be homosexual. While that fact is accurate (obviously, to progress the species you need a male and female), it was a human who came up with the idea of MARRIAGE in the first place. How is one partner for the rest of your life biologically natural, from an animalistic, neandrathal point of view? You gotta spread the seed to as many partners as possible so we can EVOLVE, boys!
But anyway, here in Canada gay marriage has been legal for quite some time now compared to other countries, and I know plenty of homosexual married couples and think its great that they can be just like everyone else and not have to refer to their partner as just that, a partner.
Against gay marriage? Then don't get one and shut up. (not directed at the asker, I'm open-minded to a healthy exchange of opinions :))Do you think that California's new legalization of gay marriage is absolute caca?
I think it's long overdue. The right to marry is a human right, and the government has no place telling consenting adults that they cannot marry the person they love.
The only moral position on gay marriage is support. If you oppose gay marriage then you believe that the government and religions have the right to force their beliefs on others - and that's not right. The majority does not have the right to step on the freedoms of others, and this is precisely what the Constitution is meant to do - protect unpopular minorities from capricious majorities. The California Supreme Court did its job.
Well are you on the fence about the will of the people? Because 61% voted against this, and they went around the people to get this ruled...but it won't be for long because an amendment to the state Constitution is on the ballot and the people will again rule.
Marriage means something to most people. They have no problem with a civil union with all the financial guarantees. They do have a problem with gays trying to take away the religious meaning it has for everyone else, and make it their own. To them it is an abomination and an insult to God, Who made marriage in the first place.
This, by the way, is not the first time California has ignored the vote of the people...and without any legal right to do so.
Want to see the Democrats in action? Take a good look at California!
I say let them marry, let them get tax penalize, let them spend money on divorces, Government ought to make as much money on everyone and quit discriminating against heterosexuals.
A sin is a sin no matter, but why are married heterosexuals always to pay the brunt of government spending to protect the right to be gay, be done with it and lets figure out how we are going to lower food and gas cost, and keep people in their homes.
I am one of the ppl against this type of MARRIAGE.. I don't
care .. they can b gay all they want.
THey do it bkux they LOVE EACH OTHER.. omg... so the court says.. okai they can get marry..
SCREW THAT.. NOW ppl that LOVE CHILDREN WILL WANT 2 GET MARRY.. ppl will be oppose.. but since it/'s out of LOVE
its okai.. SAME WITH STUFF AND ANIMALS..
A GUY MARRYING A COW... bkux he loves his cow.. so it's gonna be okai..
They should Just overrule this law.. It ain't Right.
EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL!!! Anyway u straight ppl (including me) what business is it of yours what ppl do in their own homes?? How exactly does it effect your life?? Can you not do something just bcause two pple of the same sex are in love??? I mean come on!!! Whats wrong with it!! I must admit that it looks a bit strange, but im not going 2 do anything 2 stop it. Maybe we should hang straight ppl.
Yes and no. I support gay marriage but it is not up to the courts to make law. They are there to interpret the laws passed by the legislative branch or the voters.
Ironically Buddhism is against Homosexuality, right after all the Left coasters marched for Tibet
I think it is a good thing, people should have every right to have that type of commitment to each other no matter what gender they are.
I put myself on gay people's shoes, and I hate to judge, I really have no comment about it, I'm nobody to judge other people. I think we should worry about people dying of hunger rather than this.
Why would I think that it's absolute caca???
what cons?
Now that people in love can get married, how about we focus on the economy and a bad war?
I think gay marriage should be completely illegal. We should do like in Iran - hang them for showing signs of homosexuality. It's a sickness which has been cured in some cases, but not many.
I think its great. In this day and age people need to realize that being gay is not a choice, and homosexuals shouldn't be denied the right to get married and have the same rights as straight couples.
And what gets me is people saying ';oh they can be together, that's fine, but MARRIAGE is between a man and woman';. I've had this debate with my very conservative boyfriend, who thinks its biologically unnatural to be homosexual. While that fact is accurate (obviously, to progress the species you need a male and female), it was a human who came up with the idea of MARRIAGE in the first place. How is one partner for the rest of your life biologically natural, from an animalistic, neandrathal point of view? You gotta spread the seed to as many partners as possible so we can EVOLVE, boys!
But anyway, here in Canada gay marriage has been legal for quite some time now compared to other countries, and I know plenty of homosexual married couples and think its great that they can be just like everyone else and not have to refer to their partner as just that, a partner.
Against gay marriage? Then don't get one and shut up. (not directed at the asker, I'm open-minded to a healthy exchange of opinions :))Do you think that California's new legalization of gay marriage is absolute caca?
I think it's long overdue. The right to marry is a human right, and the government has no place telling consenting adults that they cannot marry the person they love.
The only moral position on gay marriage is support. If you oppose gay marriage then you believe that the government and religions have the right to force their beliefs on others - and that's not right. The majority does not have the right to step on the freedoms of others, and this is precisely what the Constitution is meant to do - protect unpopular minorities from capricious majorities. The California Supreme Court did its job.
Well are you on the fence about the will of the people? Because 61% voted against this, and they went around the people to get this ruled...but it won't be for long because an amendment to the state Constitution is on the ballot and the people will again rule.
Marriage means something to most people. They have no problem with a civil union with all the financial guarantees. They do have a problem with gays trying to take away the religious meaning it has for everyone else, and make it their own. To them it is an abomination and an insult to God, Who made marriage in the first place.
This, by the way, is not the first time California has ignored the vote of the people...and without any legal right to do so.
Want to see the Democrats in action? Take a good look at California!
I say let them marry, let them get tax penalize, let them spend money on divorces, Government ought to make as much money on everyone and quit discriminating against heterosexuals.
A sin is a sin no matter, but why are married heterosexuals always to pay the brunt of government spending to protect the right to be gay, be done with it and lets figure out how we are going to lower food and gas cost, and keep people in their homes.
I am one of the ppl against this type of MARRIAGE.. I don't
care .. they can b gay all they want.
THey do it bkux they LOVE EACH OTHER.. omg... so the court says.. okai they can get marry..
SCREW THAT.. NOW ppl that LOVE CHILDREN WILL WANT 2 GET MARRY.. ppl will be oppose.. but since it/'s out of LOVE
its okai.. SAME WITH STUFF AND ANIMALS..
A GUY MARRYING A COW... bkux he loves his cow.. so it's gonna be okai..
They should Just overrule this law.. It ain't Right.
EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL!!! Anyway u straight ppl (including me) what business is it of yours what ppl do in their own homes?? How exactly does it effect your life?? Can you not do something just bcause two pple of the same sex are in love??? I mean come on!!! Whats wrong with it!! I must admit that it looks a bit strange, but im not going 2 do anything 2 stop it. Maybe we should hang straight ppl.
Yes and no. I support gay marriage but it is not up to the courts to make law. They are there to interpret the laws passed by the legislative branch or the voters.
Ironically Buddhism is against Homosexuality, right after all the Left coasters marched for Tibet
I think it is a good thing, people should have every right to have that type of commitment to each other no matter what gender they are.
I put myself on gay people's shoes, and I hate to judge, I really have no comment about it, I'm nobody to judge other people. I think we should worry about people dying of hunger rather than this.
Why would I think that it's absolute caca???
what cons?
Now that people in love can get married, how about we focus on the economy and a bad war?
I think gay marriage should be completely illegal. We should do like in Iran - hang them for showing signs of homosexuality. It's a sickness which has been cured in some cases, but not many.
Why is teen marriage looked down on now when it used to be common?
Don't freak out, I'm not planning a shotgun wedding. But if there are two teen virgins who can support themselves and have faith in God, why has it become...um...*insert a nicer time for ';slu**y here.*
Heck, Virgin Mary was married in her teens.
Is it just because times have changed? Is it that simple?Why is teen marriage looked down on now when it used to be common?
Because it generally has a higher failure rate.
Teenagers are C-H-I-L-D-R-E-N!Why is teen marriage looked down on now when it used to be common?
1. Life expectancy has changed. Back in the 1800's, or early 1900's, people didn't live as long as they do today - you could die of the common cold or influenza - so you got married sooner so you could reproduce. You didn't have until the typical life expectancy of 75 like we do today.
2. Expectations have changed. Young people today are generally expected to go to college and start a career before they get married. Marrying as a teen doesn't allow this to happen.
3. Scientific research has shown us that the human brain doesn't grow to its full size until age 24. Therefore, teens don't have the full brain structures in place to help them make decisions such as marriage that will last their entire lives.
4. Faith in God doesn't mean a lack of planning. Getting married means having the financial resources to pay for a house/apartment, a baby if you get pregnant, utilities, etc. In today's economy, a high school education will not suffice. In this economy, college grads are having a hard time finding work.
When (and if) the virgin mary was a teen, the average life expectancy was 30 years of age and women died even faster than men due to childbirth. Today the average life expectancy os 80 years of age, so if you marry someone at say 18, you can plan on being married to that person for about 62 years. It can happen and does happen, but for marriages to last this long is very rare indeed.
Because the sucess rates for teen marriage is not very high. Teens are still children, even if you are 18 and an adult by law. I just think its better to live and get some REAL life experience first.
It did used to be more common, but times were also different. People used to have to grow up a lot faster. Also, many of those marriages were not happy marriages. Divorce used to be looked down upon much more than it is today, so many couple stayed together regardless of whether or not they were happy.
I think it is just that simple. In the old days, 40s 50s people never thought about careers, retirement, investments, higher education was for the wealthy white male, not women. Then everything changed, we realized we are all created equal, a women was not property, she had a mind and could have anything she wanted. She wasn't something to be given to some man who truly most of the time gave her what he could. Same with all people. We want our children to have soooo much, and being married is so very hard at its best, its alot of work on a good day, with people who love each other and support each other through thick and thin. Much less when your young, have no real education, no money in the bank, and alot of time to look forward to. God has the same idea of what marriage is that hasn't changed. People and what people want out of life, love, and marriage has changed alot. Something to think about.
It's not that people look down on young marriages, it's just that most young marriages do not last. During the teens, your still growing and rapidly changing. You haven't even lived life yet.
I was married at 18. I'm now 22 and just recently divorced in December 2009. We were quick to think we were ready, we thought love was enough. Apparently not. Marriage is hard, you have to constantly work hard at keeping the marriage alive and alot of things play in to parr.
For us, we struggled financially for most of the marriage. I had to take on alot, maybe a little too much which in return caused alot of stress, which in return caused us to argue quite a bit which then caused confusion on my part. I did some stupid things and my husband cheats on me out of vengence.
We divorce!!!!
because back then all you had to do was grow stuff in your field to sell for food and animals.that was all you needed or wanted back then now.it take high school college a great job and then you still might not beable to get by.look how many people lost their homes and jobs.some of tose same people live on the streets now eat out of garbage cans.you have no way of supporting yourself .a minmum wage job won't even get you a apartment with electricity.more less a ride to get to work food on the table,gas for a car,insurance to pay a doctor if you get sick.a god help any kids you have.clothes,their food....etc....but most kids think of it as a older person trying to tell them how to live their lives when really all they are trying to do is give the some good advice.the same advice their going to give their kids some day because they now realize how hard it was/or what really broke them up in the end.
Its not as common as you think it was and furthermore women used to stay at home so when they were done with high school then that was it, only thing left to do was to start making a family. Now women are educating themselves and are getting careers because it takes more then one person in the household to make enough of a living to support everything.
Most people just think that when you get married as a teenager you really don't have the maturity level to be making a life long committed relationship really work and last.
Although some do, alot of them don't. I was married at 18 and have been married for almost 6 years. It's not easy being married, it takes alot of time, respect, and uncondtional love to really make it work and last.
i dont find anything wrong with teenage marriages. it's only because most young marriages fail because one or both parties realize they perfer to have fun than be settled down. so either they agree on divorce or an open marriage.very seldom you will find the almost perfect unity like they show on television-one tree hill's nathan and haley couple.
Times have changed and that pretty much covers all of the pros and cons....they lived a different lifestyle in those days and times have even changed from out parents days..so wait and make sure you are stable and prepared
Because people are living longer and we live in a society were people stay children longer emotional. In your example the Virgin Mary did get married young, but with the hard lifestyle she had to grow up fast.
We usually died in our 30's in Mary's time
People change and getting married just to **** is a bad bad idea
help with mine
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first of all it was frowned upon in the old days too.She was like one of the first one to have teenage pregnancy and remember she didn't have Jesus by 'it'
gosh... i was hoping you could tell me
Heck, Virgin Mary was married in her teens.
Is it just because times have changed? Is it that simple?Why is teen marriage looked down on now when it used to be common?
Because it generally has a higher failure rate.
Teenagers are C-H-I-L-D-R-E-N!Why is teen marriage looked down on now when it used to be common?
1. Life expectancy has changed. Back in the 1800's, or early 1900's, people didn't live as long as they do today - you could die of the common cold or influenza - so you got married sooner so you could reproduce. You didn't have until the typical life expectancy of 75 like we do today.
2. Expectations have changed. Young people today are generally expected to go to college and start a career before they get married. Marrying as a teen doesn't allow this to happen.
3. Scientific research has shown us that the human brain doesn't grow to its full size until age 24. Therefore, teens don't have the full brain structures in place to help them make decisions such as marriage that will last their entire lives.
4. Faith in God doesn't mean a lack of planning. Getting married means having the financial resources to pay for a house/apartment, a baby if you get pregnant, utilities, etc. In today's economy, a high school education will not suffice. In this economy, college grads are having a hard time finding work.
When (and if) the virgin mary was a teen, the average life expectancy was 30 years of age and women died even faster than men due to childbirth. Today the average life expectancy os 80 years of age, so if you marry someone at say 18, you can plan on being married to that person for about 62 years. It can happen and does happen, but for marriages to last this long is very rare indeed.
Because the sucess rates for teen marriage is not very high. Teens are still children, even if you are 18 and an adult by law. I just think its better to live and get some REAL life experience first.
It did used to be more common, but times were also different. People used to have to grow up a lot faster. Also, many of those marriages were not happy marriages. Divorce used to be looked down upon much more than it is today, so many couple stayed together regardless of whether or not they were happy.
I think it is just that simple. In the old days, 40s 50s people never thought about careers, retirement, investments, higher education was for the wealthy white male, not women. Then everything changed, we realized we are all created equal, a women was not property, she had a mind and could have anything she wanted. She wasn't something to be given to some man who truly most of the time gave her what he could. Same with all people. We want our children to have soooo much, and being married is so very hard at its best, its alot of work on a good day, with people who love each other and support each other through thick and thin. Much less when your young, have no real education, no money in the bank, and alot of time to look forward to. God has the same idea of what marriage is that hasn't changed. People and what people want out of life, love, and marriage has changed alot. Something to think about.
It's not that people look down on young marriages, it's just that most young marriages do not last. During the teens, your still growing and rapidly changing. You haven't even lived life yet.
I was married at 18. I'm now 22 and just recently divorced in December 2009. We were quick to think we were ready, we thought love was enough. Apparently not. Marriage is hard, you have to constantly work hard at keeping the marriage alive and alot of things play in to parr.
For us, we struggled financially for most of the marriage. I had to take on alot, maybe a little too much which in return caused alot of stress, which in return caused us to argue quite a bit which then caused confusion on my part. I did some stupid things and my husband cheats on me out of vengence.
We divorce!!!!
because back then all you had to do was grow stuff in your field to sell for food and animals.that was all you needed or wanted back then now.it take high school college a great job and then you still might not beable to get by.look how many people lost their homes and jobs.some of tose same people live on the streets now eat out of garbage cans.you have no way of supporting yourself .a minmum wage job won't even get you a apartment with electricity.more less a ride to get to work food on the table,gas for a car,insurance to pay a doctor if you get sick.a god help any kids you have.clothes,their food....etc....but most kids think of it as a older person trying to tell them how to live their lives when really all they are trying to do is give the some good advice.the same advice their going to give their kids some day because they now realize how hard it was/or what really broke them up in the end.
Its not as common as you think it was and furthermore women used to stay at home so when they were done with high school then that was it, only thing left to do was to start making a family. Now women are educating themselves and are getting careers because it takes more then one person in the household to make enough of a living to support everything.
Most people just think that when you get married as a teenager you really don't have the maturity level to be making a life long committed relationship really work and last.
Although some do, alot of them don't. I was married at 18 and have been married for almost 6 years. It's not easy being married, it takes alot of time, respect, and uncondtional love to really make it work and last.
i dont find anything wrong with teenage marriages. it's only because most young marriages fail because one or both parties realize they perfer to have fun than be settled down. so either they agree on divorce or an open marriage.very seldom you will find the almost perfect unity like they show on television-one tree hill's nathan and haley couple.
Times have changed and that pretty much covers all of the pros and cons....they lived a different lifestyle in those days and times have even changed from out parents days..so wait and make sure you are stable and prepared
Because people are living longer and we live in a society were people stay children longer emotional. In your example the Virgin Mary did get married young, but with the hard lifestyle she had to grow up fast.
We usually died in our 30's in Mary's time
People change and getting married just to **** is a bad bad idea
help with mine
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first of all it was frowned upon in the old days too.She was like one of the first one to have teenage pregnancy and remember she didn't have Jesus by 'it'
gosh... i was hoping you could tell me
If a muslim women slepts with another man is the marriage still valid under islamic law?
We have been separted for about 6yrs I moved on with my life and had relationships with other men. He even remarried. He now clamis I am his first wife is this marriage still vaild even if I slept with other men.If a muslim women slepts with another man is the marriage still valid under islamic law?
If there has not been an official annulment of the marriage by a Muslim clergyperson, the marriage is still valid and recognized under Islamic law.If a muslim women slepts with another man is the marriage still valid under islamic law?
If he is remarried then it may not be.
I think I read something once where the man has to ask his wife's permission before marrying another woman, I also know that the wife has the right to divorce if she doesn't like him taking another wife.
I'm sorry I can't be any more accurate. Good luck!
If there has not been an official annulment of the marriage by a Muslim clergyperson, the marriage is still valid and recognized under Islamic law.If a muslim women slepts with another man is the marriage still valid under islamic law?
If he is remarried then it may not be.
I think I read something once where the man has to ask his wife's permission before marrying another woman, I also know that the wife has the right to divorce if she doesn't like him taking another wife.
I'm sorry I can't be any more accurate. Good luck!
Which are good marriage halls in chennai city?
We expect around 500-600 people crowd. It would be during may. So its better if we could have air conditioning. The dinner for reception would be buffet type. I live in T Nagar so closer the better!Which are good marriage halls in chennai city?
The following halls should suit your requirements well..
Kanthimathi Kalyana Mandapam
700 Capacity - With AC (Near G.N.Chetty Road)
http://www.matrimonyplanner.in/Marriage-鈥?/a>
Sri Bhuvaneswari Kalyana Mandapam
750 Capacity - With AC (Behind Big Bazaar in Pondy Bazaar)
http://www.matrimonyplanner.in/Marriage-鈥?/a>
There are more AC halls in T.Nagar area like Sri Krishnaswamy Kalyana Mandapam and Vijaya Mahal, but they are a little bigger (1200 and above seating capacity). The following page lists the marriage halls in T.Nagar area (both AC and non-AC)...
http://www.matrimonyplanner.in/List-of-m鈥?/a>
Try changing the filters to nearby areas like West Mambalam and Mylapore for more options. Also check out this Map View showing marriage halls in Chennai...
http://www.matrimonyplanner.in/Map-of-ma鈥?/a>
(Double click to zoom into the required location and click on the bubble icon)
Good luck with your search.Which are good marriage halls in chennai city?
Hi ..
you will get an Air-conditioned marriage hall with good infrastructure is the auditorium in New College in Royapettah.. but make sure whether they will allow other religion function too... or Rani mayyamai Hall near ethiraj College...
or u can opt for Hotel Hall which is available in all 3 star hotels
search in google
The following halls should suit your requirements well..
Kanthimathi Kalyana Mandapam
700 Capacity - With AC (Near G.N.Chetty Road)
http://www.matrimonyplanner.in/Marriage-鈥?/a>
Sri Bhuvaneswari Kalyana Mandapam
750 Capacity - With AC (Behind Big Bazaar in Pondy Bazaar)
http://www.matrimonyplanner.in/Marriage-鈥?/a>
There are more AC halls in T.Nagar area like Sri Krishnaswamy Kalyana Mandapam and Vijaya Mahal, but they are a little bigger (1200 and above seating capacity). The following page lists the marriage halls in T.Nagar area (both AC and non-AC)...
http://www.matrimonyplanner.in/List-of-m鈥?/a>
Try changing the filters to nearby areas like West Mambalam and Mylapore for more options. Also check out this Map View showing marriage halls in Chennai...
http://www.matrimonyplanner.in/Map-of-ma鈥?/a>
(Double click to zoom into the required location and click on the bubble icon)
Good luck with your search.Which are good marriage halls in chennai city?
Hi ..
you will get an Air-conditioned marriage hall with good infrastructure is the auditorium in New College in Royapettah.. but make sure whether they will allow other religion function too... or Rani mayyamai Hall near ethiraj College...
or u can opt for Hotel Hall which is available in all 3 star hotels
search in google
Why do people who PRETEND to be married insist that marriage doesn't mean anythiing?
Why do people who have been together for a few years, who live together, who share expenses, and who have kids together, think that's the same as being married? If your so against marriage and insist that it''s just a piece of paper that doesn't mean anything, then why PRETEND like you're married?Why do people who PRETEND to be married insist that marriage doesn't mean anythiing?
Once again I have to agree with you Drew. Living together and being married ARE 2 different things. And for some people being married is taboo but living together is just fine. I have to chalk it up to hypocrisy. When you ask most people who live together, they are just fine with their arraignment but when you mention marriage, all of a sudden ';Its just a piece of paper that means nothing';. Muppet0000 said its all the same at the end of the day. NO, IT';S NOT THE SAME. If your ';pretend spouse'; goes into the hospital can you sign the papers?, Disconnect them from the life support?, Give the go ahead to administer medication?, What happens when you two ';divorce';? Who gets what? What happens when your ';spouse'; owns the house and then kicks you out? I have a good friend of mine who's in his 80's who calls shacking up ';The cowards marriage';.Why do people who PRETEND to be married insist that marriage doesn't mean anythiing?
Well that's a good question though a lot of people have gone along
with this experiment (though they will claim it is not ) and in the end
whats there to do ?
Either go ahead and give in and accept that it is the same and why
not by law give your children a last name instead of ...............
Someone i know did this for years in their partnership till one day
the family thought they saw the light, And married for their children's
and relationships sake. Though nothing had changed.
I am a good observer and i feel the people who chose to hang ten on
marriage are the ones most stubborn they see things their way and
no other and in the end what is there to do ?
# Marry # Separate # Divorce # Stick together
In the end it's the same choices for all of us.
They aren't pretending anything. They have a commitment to each other just like any legally married couple, they just don't see the need for a silly ceremony and a piece of paper. That's how people used to live before marriage ceremonies were even invented, before 'the church' told us all that not having a ceremony was 'living in sin' and you'll go to hell. What rot! Anyway, that's about all I can think of to this silly question.
People lack morals and girls give ';it'; away without committment. My mom always used to say ';why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?'; and that has been proven to be true these past few decades. Men don't have to put a ring on a girl's finger if she's willing to put out and give him children. Those same girls, who once dreamed of marriage; have now convinced themselves that marriage is irrelevant because they don't want to stir the pot.
Marriage is not just a piece of paper, it is a lifetime committment that should be taken seriously. Perhaps if everyone quit sleeping around, having bastard children and stopped cheating...more women would have the self esteem to stand up for themselves and their boyfriends would make that committment.
In some states, after a while of living together and doing all the things that married couples do.. you are considered 'common law' married. If you have kids together and do all the things that married people do, then, I'm sure the woman you are with DOES feel like you want a commitment with her. I would guess the one who professes to be so against marriage isn't really against it at all. Either that or they are afraid to file for a marriage license for some reason. Who knows?
well in the olden days you couldnt live together or have children without being treated bad and pointed at but in the 21st C we have started to cohabit etc without judgment etc and being a couple married or not we are living as though we are so i guess it is the same. you wouldnt know if a couple living together in this day and age are married or not unless you asked them or saw their rings.
Probably because they cant see the point of spending so much time and/or money on getting ';officialy'; married. They know their commitment to each other %26amp; thats all that matters. Also, some of them dont believe in god, so a religious ceremony is pointless...some also view the courts in a bad light (%26amp; who can blame them, the justice system is screwed) so they dont bother making it official in the legal sense either, %26amp; why should they when all it involves is giving money to some beaurecrat. A legal contract between two people isnt very romantic anyway, staying together just on free will is tho.
The commitment that a marriage vow brings, makes petty differences more likely to be hammered out.
Marriage counselors Les and Leslie Parrott have an idea.
In their excellent book Saving Your Marriage Before It Starts, they suggest four myths that have torpedoed many marriages because of unrealistic expectations and misconceptions about what marriage should be. In what follows, we鈥檒l look at four marriage myths that are the most harmful and most common: http://www.probe.org/site/c.fdKEIMNsEoG/鈥?/a>
鈥?We expect exactly the same things from marriage.
鈥?Everything good in our marriage will get better.
鈥?Everything bad in my life will disappear.
鈥?My spouse will make me whole.
Every marriage is between two broken and fallen people who cannot make each other whole. We are called to love and respect each other, serve and celebrate each other鈥攂ut only God can make us whole.
';Happily ever after'; may be for fairy tales, but that doesn鈥檛 mean there is no such thing as a happy, rich, fulfilling marriage. But it鈥檚 only possible for those who live in reality, not in the fantasy of make-believe myths. May God give us grace to trust Him to walk in truth and not illusion.
so when one of you kicks the bucket, you can claim the house. they have legal rights you know. so yes in that respect they are right, they have the same legal rights as spouses, you just paid a hell of a lot more for that piece of paper, and you will have to pay a lot more to have that paper destroyed. not terribly economical really...
I think they feel that if they fully committ to the other in marriage, that they will take advantage of that and become a rotten person whereas if youre single and dating, you have to try to make sure they dont leave you.
But I say if you feel that way about the other person, then maybe you shouldnt be with them in the first place if you are not willing to fully committ to them.
It's called FEAR my friend. Why would you buy the gallon of milk when you can have the COW for free. Get my point.
I think it's stupid. It honestly comes down to FEAR. That's it.
But... I do believe in a test drive. I would preffer to live with someone for a few years and make sure that we can stand living with each other. BUT... We both gotta be one the same page that we have marriage in mind and in the future.
Your totally right. I mean look at the answers on here. They are still skirtting around the issue. None of them will come out and say WHY they insist that marriage doesn't mean anything. It's the same because it ';just is';. What a stupid answer. Being married and living together is not the same. However, those that are living together CAN'T tell you why it is the same or isn't because they have never what??? oh right THEY'VE NEVER BEEN MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pretend that they are married? Think about what your saying there lol.
So they are together and acting like couples act, being married will not change the way they act. At the end of the day, it IS just a peice of paper. It will not change anything about their relationship together.
Living together is nothing more than a fear based union, two scared people. On top of easy sex for him and insecurity issues for her. This is why it doesn't last, even if they get married. The 20 somethings are the most popular group that do this kinda thing.
They don't pretend to be married, they behave as a couple; married couples also behave as couples; this is why it looks similar from the outside. Both married and unmarried couples strive towards the same goals.
most states recognize this as a marriage. Its called a ';common law marriage'. Something after 5-7 years or so of living together, it is legal marriage. no paperwork nessasary.
They're not pretending that they're married they are living together and that is how living together is the same as marriage so why would you need something that says you're married?
I wouldn't say they are ';PRETENDING'; to be married.......they're just marching to the beat of their own drum. It may have ';marriage'; similarities but they feel more ';free'; because their situation is not legally binding..........
I'm an atheist, so my beliefs aren't motivated by any ridiculous fear of sin. Married is married, living together is not. I agree with your point.
Its not the same thing but instead of drinking haterade its better to just let them do what they do. You aren't going to change their mind.
Because it is the same. Duh! The tele says so anyway, so let's not question the box of infinite wisdom. Obey!
Yes I agree with you.
Why aren't they proud to be not married.
i agree with konstantoil industry
Once again I have to agree with you Drew. Living together and being married ARE 2 different things. And for some people being married is taboo but living together is just fine. I have to chalk it up to hypocrisy. When you ask most people who live together, they are just fine with their arraignment but when you mention marriage, all of a sudden ';Its just a piece of paper that means nothing';. Muppet0000 said its all the same at the end of the day. NO, IT';S NOT THE SAME. If your ';pretend spouse'; goes into the hospital can you sign the papers?, Disconnect them from the life support?, Give the go ahead to administer medication?, What happens when you two ';divorce';? Who gets what? What happens when your ';spouse'; owns the house and then kicks you out? I have a good friend of mine who's in his 80's who calls shacking up ';The cowards marriage';.Why do people who PRETEND to be married insist that marriage doesn't mean anythiing?
Well that's a good question though a lot of people have gone along
with this experiment (though they will claim it is not ) and in the end
whats there to do ?
Either go ahead and give in and accept that it is the same and why
not by law give your children a last name instead of ...............
Someone i know did this for years in their partnership till one day
the family thought they saw the light, And married for their children's
and relationships sake. Though nothing had changed.
I am a good observer and i feel the people who chose to hang ten on
marriage are the ones most stubborn they see things their way and
no other and in the end what is there to do ?
# Marry # Separate # Divorce # Stick together
In the end it's the same choices for all of us.
They aren't pretending anything. They have a commitment to each other just like any legally married couple, they just don't see the need for a silly ceremony and a piece of paper. That's how people used to live before marriage ceremonies were even invented, before 'the church' told us all that not having a ceremony was 'living in sin' and you'll go to hell. What rot! Anyway, that's about all I can think of to this silly question.
People lack morals and girls give ';it'; away without committment. My mom always used to say ';why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?'; and that has been proven to be true these past few decades. Men don't have to put a ring on a girl's finger if she's willing to put out and give him children. Those same girls, who once dreamed of marriage; have now convinced themselves that marriage is irrelevant because they don't want to stir the pot.
Marriage is not just a piece of paper, it is a lifetime committment that should be taken seriously. Perhaps if everyone quit sleeping around, having bastard children and stopped cheating...more women would have the self esteem to stand up for themselves and their boyfriends would make that committment.
In some states, after a while of living together and doing all the things that married couples do.. you are considered 'common law' married. If you have kids together and do all the things that married people do, then, I'm sure the woman you are with DOES feel like you want a commitment with her. I would guess the one who professes to be so against marriage isn't really against it at all. Either that or they are afraid to file for a marriage license for some reason. Who knows?
well in the olden days you couldnt live together or have children without being treated bad and pointed at but in the 21st C we have started to cohabit etc without judgment etc and being a couple married or not we are living as though we are so i guess it is the same. you wouldnt know if a couple living together in this day and age are married or not unless you asked them or saw their rings.
Probably because they cant see the point of spending so much time and/or money on getting ';officialy'; married. They know their commitment to each other %26amp; thats all that matters. Also, some of them dont believe in god, so a religious ceremony is pointless...some also view the courts in a bad light (%26amp; who can blame them, the justice system is screwed) so they dont bother making it official in the legal sense either, %26amp; why should they when all it involves is giving money to some beaurecrat. A legal contract between two people isnt very romantic anyway, staying together just on free will is tho.
The commitment that a marriage vow brings, makes petty differences more likely to be hammered out.
Marriage counselors Les and Leslie Parrott have an idea.
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so when one of you kicks the bucket, you can claim the house. they have legal rights you know. so yes in that respect they are right, they have the same legal rights as spouses, you just paid a hell of a lot more for that piece of paper, and you will have to pay a lot more to have that paper destroyed. not terribly economical really...
I think they feel that if they fully committ to the other in marriage, that they will take advantage of that and become a rotten person whereas if youre single and dating, you have to try to make sure they dont leave you.
But I say if you feel that way about the other person, then maybe you shouldnt be with them in the first place if you are not willing to fully committ to them.
It's called FEAR my friend. Why would you buy the gallon of milk when you can have the COW for free. Get my point.
I think it's stupid. It honestly comes down to FEAR. That's it.
But... I do believe in a test drive. I would preffer to live with someone for a few years and make sure that we can stand living with each other. BUT... We both gotta be one the same page that we have marriage in mind and in the future.
Your totally right. I mean look at the answers on here. They are still skirtting around the issue. None of them will come out and say WHY they insist that marriage doesn't mean anything. It's the same because it ';just is';. What a stupid answer. Being married and living together is not the same. However, those that are living together CAN'T tell you why it is the same or isn't because they have never what??? oh right THEY'VE NEVER BEEN MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pretend that they are married? Think about what your saying there lol.
So they are together and acting like couples act, being married will not change the way they act. At the end of the day, it IS just a peice of paper. It will not change anything about their relationship together.
Living together is nothing more than a fear based union, two scared people. On top of easy sex for him and insecurity issues for her. This is why it doesn't last, even if they get married. The 20 somethings are the most popular group that do this kinda thing.
They don't pretend to be married, they behave as a couple; married couples also behave as couples; this is why it looks similar from the outside. Both married and unmarried couples strive towards the same goals.
most states recognize this as a marriage. Its called a ';common law marriage'. Something after 5-7 years or so of living together, it is legal marriage. no paperwork nessasary.
They're not pretending that they're married they are living together and that is how living together is the same as marriage so why would you need something that says you're married?
I wouldn't say they are ';PRETENDING'; to be married.......they're just marching to the beat of their own drum. It may have ';marriage'; similarities but they feel more ';free'; because their situation is not legally binding..........
I'm an atheist, so my beliefs aren't motivated by any ridiculous fear of sin. Married is married, living together is not. I agree with your point.
Its not the same thing but instead of drinking haterade its better to just let them do what they do. You aren't going to change their mind.
Because it is the same. Duh! The tele says so anyway, so let's not question the box of infinite wisdom. Obey!
Yes I agree with you.
Why aren't they proud to be not married.
i agree with konstant
What is the estimate for how much $ in taxes and other things the legalization of marijuana and gay marriage?
will make. I want the statistic or rather estimate. If they were legalized, what kind of money would these two generate for the USA. And please, refrain from leaving answers telling me about how one or both of them are bad and evil, or it could never happen. I just want answers that will have calculated numbers on them.What is the estimate for how much $ in taxes and other things the legalization of marijuana and gay marriage?
Gay marriage - not significant tax $ changes.
Marijuana - I don't know, but I am sure that would generate a lot of tax revenue and save money on drug enforcement efforts.What is the estimate for how much $ in taxes and other things the legalization of marijuana and gay marriage?
I have no idea. I've never seen an stats for either. I think Calif may be putting out stats for marijuana legalization in their state. I doubt gay marriage will make any significant difference.
To be honest, I think gay marriage would reduce tax revenue, because of the tax breaks married couples receive. I still support gay marriage because it's an equal rights case and marriage is done by the state, which is seperate from religion, therefore religion should have no say in the state marriage of gay people. Legalizing Pot would have a huge increase in tax revenue, it would free up courts, prisons and police officers arresting and housing people for use/sale of the drug. Although I think a lot of people would grow their own, but many people would be lazy and buy it just like any other fruit or vegetable.
Gay marriage - not significant tax $ changes.
Marijuana - I don't know, but I am sure that would generate a lot of tax revenue and save money on drug enforcement efforts.What is the estimate for how much $ in taxes and other things the legalization of marijuana and gay marriage?
I have no idea. I've never seen an stats for either. I think Calif may be putting out stats for marijuana legalization in their state. I doubt gay marriage will make any significant difference.
To be honest, I think gay marriage would reduce tax revenue, because of the tax breaks married couples receive. I still support gay marriage because it's an equal rights case and marriage is done by the state, which is seperate from religion, therefore religion should have no say in the state marriage of gay people. Legalizing Pot would have a huge increase in tax revenue, it would free up courts, prisons and police officers arresting and housing people for use/sale of the drug. Although I think a lot of people would grow their own, but many people would be lazy and buy it just like any other fruit or vegetable.
Does the government check if we are living together after marriage?
I have a J1 visa and I am marrying a U.S. citizen. besides having my future husband file the petition so I can get a greencard , is there anything else that will need to be done in order for me to get the card?
Do we need to live together after marriage, for example.Does the government check if we are living together after marriage?
sounds as if your only reason getting married to a US citizen was the greencard... i.e. ';Do we need to live together...'; Why would you ask this question if you werent trying to cheat the system to begin with?
Docar's reply takes care of the legalities. B-ByeDoes the government check if we are living together after marriage?
The continued existance of your marriage is CERTAINLY going to decide whether you get a green card or not. Your husband can file a petition on your behalf immediately after marriage, BUT it would result in a conditional green card, 90 days prior to the 2nd anniversary of your civil partnership, both of you need to apply for the REMOVAL OF CONDITIONAL STATUS on your greencard. If either party objects to this, your green card will be revoked.
Another option is to wait for 2 years and apply for the unconditional status, you can hang on for a further 3 years to apply for US citizenship if you want...
You have to return to your own country while the spousal visa is processed -- a couple of years. This makes it more difficult to prove a valid marriage unless you live together in your country. And it takes a whole lot more than just living under the same roof to prove a valid marriage.
You are committing marriage fraud -- and they will spot it. That gets him up to 10 years in prison + $250,000 fine, and gets you deported and permanently barred. Forget marriage as a route to a green card.
First off you are required to move back to your country for two years. So many people have been screwing that up that there is now a crack down on the Exchange Visitor Program. It has gotten so bad that some countries have decided that they no longer want to participate! You might want to look into a waiver! And yes the government will check to be sure you are living together.
Ohhh that will not work honey!
YES you have to move back and the people who interview you are trainned to find out and make sure your marriage is real.
Do we need to live together after marriage, for example.Does the government check if we are living together after marriage?
sounds as if your only reason getting married to a US citizen was the greencard... i.e. ';Do we need to live together...'; Why would you ask this question if you werent trying to cheat the system to begin with?
Docar's reply takes care of the legalities. B-ByeDoes the government check if we are living together after marriage?
The continued existance of your marriage is CERTAINLY going to decide whether you get a green card or not. Your husband can file a petition on your behalf immediately after marriage, BUT it would result in a conditional green card, 90 days prior to the 2nd anniversary of your civil partnership, both of you need to apply for the REMOVAL OF CONDITIONAL STATUS on your greencard. If either party objects to this, your green card will be revoked.
Another option is to wait for 2 years and apply for the unconditional status, you can hang on for a further 3 years to apply for US citizenship if you want...
You have to return to your own country while the spousal visa is processed -- a couple of years. This makes it more difficult to prove a valid marriage unless you live together in your country. And it takes a whole lot more than just living under the same roof to prove a valid marriage.
You are committing marriage fraud -- and they will spot it. That gets him up to 10 years in prison + $250,000 fine, and gets you deported and permanently barred. Forget marriage as a route to a green card.
First off you are required to move back to your country for two years. So many people have been screwing that up that there is now a crack down on the Exchange Visitor Program. It has gotten so bad that some countries have decided that they no longer want to participate! You might want to look into a waiver! And yes the government will check to be sure you are living together.
Ohhh that will not work honey!
YES you have to move back and the people who interview you are trainned to find out and make sure your marriage is real.
Why is God punishing the West Coast for rejecting gay marriage?
Since they did God's will, I can expect no earthquakes or mudslides in California until the next election, correct?Why is God punishing the West Coast for rejecting gay marriage?
Poseidon always liked gay marriage. He's not the right dude to tick off.Why is God punishing the West Coast for rejecting gay marriage?
I think He's a little behind schedule, and is trying to punish Las Vegas for being the original ';Sin City';, but His aim is a bit off to the east...
no -we are like granola, a bunch of heathen @$$ fruits,nuts and flakes,doomed to suffer fires,mudslides and earthquakes until the end of time.
maybe, we should bring back- auto da fe's, and see if that appeases the gods
Too many mexican Catholics off-setting His Righteous Indignation.
California is damn lucky.
Can't say the same for Oregon or Washington tho
Well looking back at Sodom and Gomorrah I personally can't remember if the Republicans or the Democrats were in charge at the time.
He isn't punishing anyone on the West Coast. You don't know if ';they'; did God's will or not, do you? You are not God.
The only punishment I see happening, is Him letting so many narrow-minded, judgmental people in positions of power! Oh wait... that's our own fault!
God could start by putting out the wildfire in California.
them CA nuts should learn how not to vote with people(?) from Kansass...
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=h…
Yea verily indeedy.
God is God as Job found out. Expect all you want but God has His own plan and purposes.
Best question ever!
Sadly, they won't understand.
I live in CA. Nothing bad going on here. This is PARADISE!!
He's still mad at us for electing the Kindergarten Cop.
No, you can expect hell across this entire nation. Not once part will be spared. You will see crops fail, forest burn, floods and droughts. We have only seen the tip of what is to come. We as a nation have turned our back on the God that blessed this nation for so long.
Now we will make it or perish on our own.
Mock all you want, in 1 year look back on this and see what happens.
Poseidon always liked gay marriage. He's not the right dude to tick off.Why is God punishing the West Coast for rejecting gay marriage?
I think He's a little behind schedule, and is trying to punish Las Vegas for being the original ';Sin City';, but His aim is a bit off to the east...
no -we are like granola, a bunch of heathen @$$ fruits,nuts and flakes,doomed to suffer fires,mudslides and earthquakes until the end of time.
maybe, we should bring back- auto da fe's, and see if that appeases the gods
Too many mexican Catholics off-setting His Righteous Indignation.
California is damn lucky.
Can't say the same for Oregon or Washington tho
Well looking back at Sodom and Gomorrah I personally can't remember if the Republicans or the Democrats were in charge at the time.
He isn't punishing anyone on the West Coast. You don't know if ';they'; did God's will or not, do you? You are not God.
The only punishment I see happening, is Him letting so many narrow-minded, judgmental people in positions of power! Oh wait... that's our own fault!
God could start by putting out the wildfire in California.
them CA nuts should learn how not to vote with people(?) from Kansass...
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=h…
Yea verily indeedy.
God is God as Job found out. Expect all you want but God has His own plan and purposes.
Best question ever!
Sadly, they won't understand.
I live in CA. Nothing bad going on here. This is PARADISE!!
He's still mad at us for electing the Kindergarten Cop.
No, you can expect hell across this entire nation. Not once part will be spared. You will see crops fail, forest burn, floods and droughts. We have only seen the tip of what is to come. We as a nation have turned our back on the God that blessed this nation for so long.
Now we will make it or perish on our own.
Mock all you want, in 1 year look back on this and see what happens.
Does anyone know how long it takes to get a marriage license?
My fiance and i are looking into getting married in a couple months and he may only have a week or less here. He's in the Army so his time is limited. So I'm trying to find out how long it takes to get a marriage license and everything else you need.
Would a week cover everything?Does anyone know how long it takes to get a marriage license?
My husband and i got married in las vegas...it took 15 minutes to get a license.Does anyone know how long it takes to get a marriage license?
http://www.usmarriagelaws.com/search/uni鈥?/a>
Illinois has a 1-day waiting period on the license, so you would go to the courthouse %26amp; apply and either go back the next to pick it up or some places will give it to you the same day but tell you it can't be used until the next day.
It remains valid for 60 days so you could use it anytime during that week he is home.
The one thing of interest is that cook county licenses can only be used in cook county (see the note on the website).
I would suggest you contact the courthouse now to arrange to come in during March %26amp; get the license and have a judge marry you.
If you apply together which you have to it usually only takes 15 minutes or so at the probate court , and then it is valid to use anytime after up to a time period that varies by location, at least this is the case where I'm from
not sure about your state, but in pa you can get one in15 mins and it is good for 60 days. call your courthouse and ask on monday morning. congrats!
I would place a call to your local courthouse first thing Monday morning to get the process started.
Depends on the state your in for MA its 3 days.
Would a week cover everything?Does anyone know how long it takes to get a marriage license?
My husband and i got married in las vegas...it took 15 minutes to get a license.Does anyone know how long it takes to get a marriage license?
http://www.usmarriagelaws.com/search/uni鈥?/a>
Illinois has a 1-day waiting period on the license, so you would go to the courthouse %26amp; apply and either go back the next to pick it up or some places will give it to you the same day but tell you it can't be used until the next day.
It remains valid for 60 days so you could use it anytime during that week he is home.
The one thing of interest is that cook county licenses can only be used in cook county (see the note on the website).
I would suggest you contact the courthouse now to arrange to come in during March %26amp; get the license and have a judge marry you.
If you apply together which you have to it usually only takes 15 minutes or so at the probate court , and then it is valid to use anytime after up to a time period that varies by location, at least this is the case where I'm from
not sure about your state, but in pa you can get one in15 mins and it is good for 60 days. call your courthouse and ask on monday morning. congrats!
I would place a call to your local courthouse first thing Monday morning to get the process started.
Depends on the state your in for MA its 3 days.
How do I find out the back ground on a Marriage Family Therapist?
I need to check the back ground on a MFT license, school any other states they may have practiced in and if there are any or ever were any complaints filed against them. Now in Calif. ThanksHow do I find out the back ground on a Marriage Family Therapist?
go to www.searchsytems.net and look up california and licensesHow do I find out the back ground on a Marriage Family Therapist?
You should contact California Board of Behavioral Sciences:
http://www.bbs.ca.gov/
go to www.searchsytems.net and look up california and licensesHow do I find out the back ground on a Marriage Family Therapist?
You should contact California Board of Behavioral Sciences:
http://www.bbs.ca.gov/
Why should government not interfere with business, but interfere with marriage and things like that?
This question is geared more towards people who are both socially and fiscally conservative. A pillar of fiscal conservatism is deregulation. So a fiscal conservative would say government should interfere with the capital system as little as possible. However a social conservative would most likely be against gay marriage and abortion, and most likely support legislation that would ban those things. How can you support interfering with personal lives, but not support business regulation? Why would someone believe that it is government's obligation to interfere with things like gay marriage, and woman's right to choose, but it is not governments obligation to interfere with business? Note that gay marriage and abortion doesn't have any affect on the general population, but uninterrupted capitalism clearly has negative effects on the world. Why should government interfere with marriage and not interfere with business?Why should government not interfere with business, but interfere with marriage and things like that?
Your thesis is flawed! The American 'government' has no role whatsoever in the lives of U.S. citizens. The laws and regulations of this great nation are made 'by the people, for the people'. Gay marriage was banned in California by a vote of the 'people'. If enough people were in favor of gay marriage, the law would be different. Abortion, where ever it is illegal, is a reflection of the will of the people. Most conservative objections to abortion revolve around making the 'people' pay the cost of abortions for irresponsible men and women. If a woman wants an abortion she should pay for it herself.Why should government not interfere with business, but interfere with marriage and things like that?
You're clearly dreaming if you think any country in the world has uninterrupted capitalism. The U.S. hasn't been capitalist since the early 20th century.
This so-called ';crisis'; you're alluding to is caused by the same thing that's historically always caused it... government.
As for the rest of your question... You make a good point about conservatives. They're perfectly fine with restricting freedom in the social sense, but against restricting freedom in the economic sense. On the other hand, liberals have no qualms restricting economic freedom but are against restricting social freedom. Both major ideologies are obviously very inconsistent.
The only ideology that consistently stands for freedom and liberty is libertarianism.
I personally don't have anything against gay marriage, but a woman's right to choose should not include killing another personoil industry
Your thesis is flawed! The American 'government' has no role whatsoever in the lives of U.S. citizens. The laws and regulations of this great nation are made 'by the people, for the people'. Gay marriage was banned in California by a vote of the 'people'. If enough people were in favor of gay marriage, the law would be different. Abortion, where ever it is illegal, is a reflection of the will of the people. Most conservative objections to abortion revolve around making the 'people' pay the cost of abortions for irresponsible men and women. If a woman wants an abortion she should pay for it herself.Why should government not interfere with business, but interfere with marriage and things like that?
You're clearly dreaming if you think any country in the world has uninterrupted capitalism. The U.S. hasn't been capitalist since the early 20th century.
This so-called ';crisis'; you're alluding to is caused by the same thing that's historically always caused it... government.
As for the rest of your question... You make a good point about conservatives. They're perfectly fine with restricting freedom in the social sense, but against restricting freedom in the economic sense. On the other hand, liberals have no qualms restricting economic freedom but are against restricting social freedom. Both major ideologies are obviously very inconsistent.
The only ideology that consistently stands for freedom and liberty is libertarianism.
I personally don't have anything against gay marriage, but a woman's right to choose should not include killing another person
How would the story have been covered if Miss California had been a Muslim opposed to same-sex marriage?
in that scenario the greater Left would have been angry if Perez had gone rogue-selfish to ask that particular question in the first place, and the media outcome would have been different
BTW actually the journalist now jailed in Iran held the title Miss North Dakota,
she did not compete in hijab!How would the story have been covered if Miss California had been a Muslim opposed to same-sex marriage?
Anyone who answers a question by saying that we have a choice for same sex marriage or opposite (her words, not mine) should be the target of points and laughter. A young woman from California should be an even bigger target with that answer. I thought these women were supposed to be informed!?! She was evidently too busy on her diet to pay attention to Prop 8.
Donald Trump and Perez Hilton are making a fortune off of this non issue.
Miss California KNOWS that Perez Hilton is going to be a judge and she can't form an answer about gay marriage?? Seriously?? CHOICE? OPPOSITE?? You can easily maintain your opinion and still give a good answer to this question. She did not.How would the story have been covered if Miss California had been a Muslim opposed to same-sex marriage?
Same thing. In the 21st century, you can't forbid a group from having the same rights as the rest, especially by using religion (while gays and marriages existed way before Islam and Christianity)
I am glad she lost ... selfishness isn't very attractive
She'd have won, because as we all know poor whites and Christians are oppressed while Blacks and Muslims rule the planet.
Now, go and feel even more paranoid. Poor you, indeed.
well a muslim probably wouldn't be allowed to participate in miss America (right wingers will lable her a terrorist) so your question here is moot
Perez Hilton asked the question as a ';gotcha'; question knowing that she attended San Diego Christian University. He is a bomb-throwing a$$hat.
i DONT THINK SHE LOST BECAUSE of same sex marriage, but how she answered the question: '; I was taught to beleive....'; so therefore she didnt have her own opinion.
You would not have heard about it if you had not seen it yourself. It would have been as unreported as all the other answers.
She would of got a pass no matter how she answered the question as Lib`s do not like to offend Muslim`s .
She'd be at the White House today being interviewed by Katie Couric.
or what if she was a Black woman?
after all blacks voted in record numbers to ban gay marriage.
Then be prepared for a hypothetical answer...even if you don't like it...DUH!
Can they wear bikini's?
she'd have won and Perv would have applauded her 'honesty'.
She would have won. Peace
BTW actually the journalist now jailed in Iran held the title Miss North Dakota,
she did not compete in hijab!How would the story have been covered if Miss California had been a Muslim opposed to same-sex marriage?
Anyone who answers a question by saying that we have a choice for same sex marriage or opposite (her words, not mine) should be the target of points and laughter. A young woman from California should be an even bigger target with that answer. I thought these women were supposed to be informed!?! She was evidently too busy on her diet to pay attention to Prop 8.
Donald Trump and Perez Hilton are making a fortune off of this non issue.
Miss California KNOWS that Perez Hilton is going to be a judge and she can't form an answer about gay marriage?? Seriously?? CHOICE? OPPOSITE?? You can easily maintain your opinion and still give a good answer to this question. She did not.How would the story have been covered if Miss California had been a Muslim opposed to same-sex marriage?
Same thing. In the 21st century, you can't forbid a group from having the same rights as the rest, especially by using religion (while gays and marriages existed way before Islam and Christianity)
I am glad she lost ... selfishness isn't very attractive
She'd have won, because as we all know poor whites and Christians are oppressed while Blacks and Muslims rule the planet.
Now, go and feel even more paranoid. Poor you, indeed.
well a muslim probably wouldn't be allowed to participate in miss America (right wingers will lable her a terrorist) so your question here is moot
Perez Hilton asked the question as a ';gotcha'; question knowing that she attended San Diego Christian University. He is a bomb-throwing a$$hat.
i DONT THINK SHE LOST BECAUSE of same sex marriage, but how she answered the question: '; I was taught to beleive....'; so therefore she didnt have her own opinion.
You would not have heard about it if you had not seen it yourself. It would have been as unreported as all the other answers.
She would of got a pass no matter how she answered the question as Lib`s do not like to offend Muslim`s .
She'd be at the White House today being interviewed by Katie Couric.
or what if she was a Black woman?
after all blacks voted in record numbers to ban gay marriage.
Then be prepared for a hypothetical answer...even if you don't like it...DUH!
Can they wear bikini's?
she'd have won and Perv would have applauded her 'honesty'.
She would have won. Peace
Why do people who PRETEND to be married insist that marriage doesn't mean anythiing?
Why do people who have been together for a few years, who live together, who share expenses, and who have kids together, think that's the same as being married? If your so against marriage and insist that it''s just a piece of paper that doesn't mean anything, then why PRETEND like you're married?Why do people who PRETEND to be married insist that marriage doesn't mean anythiing?
Once again I have to agree with you Drew. Living together and being married ARE 2 different things. And for some people being married is taboo but living together is just fine. I have to chalk it up to hypocrisy. When you ask most people who live together, they are just fine with their arraignment but when you mention marriage, all of a sudden ';Its just a piece of paper that means nothing';. Muppet0000 said its all the same at the end of the day. NO, IT';S NOT THE SAME. If your ';pretend spouse'; goes into the hospital can you sign the papers?, Disconnect them from the life support?, Give the go ahead to administer medication?, What happens when you two ';divorce';? Who gets what? What happens when your ';spouse'; owns the house and then kicks you out? I have a good friend of mine who's in his 80's who calls shacking up ';The cowards marriage';.Why do people who PRETEND to be married insist that marriage doesn't mean anythiing?
Well that's a good question though a lot of people have gone along
with this experiment (though they will claim it is not ) and in the end
whats there to do ?
Either go ahead and give in and accept that it is the same and why
not by law give your children a last name instead of ...............
Someone i know did this for years in their partnership till one day
the family thought they saw the light, And married for their children's
and relationships sake. Though nothing had changed.
I am a good observer and i feel the people who chose to hang ten on
marriage are the ones most stubborn they see things their way and
no other and in the end what is there to do ?
# Marry # Separate # Divorce # Stick together
In the end it's the same choices for all of us.
They aren't pretending anything. They have a commitment to each other just like any legally married couple, they just don't see the need for a silly ceremony and a piece of paper. That's how people used to live before marriage ceremonies were even invented, before 'the church' told us all that not having a ceremony was 'living in sin' and you'll go to hell. What rot! Anyway, that's about all I can think of to this silly question.
People lack morals and girls give ';it'; away without committment. My mom always used to say ';why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?'; and that has been proven to be true these past few decades. Men don't have to put a ring on a girl's finger if she's willing to put out and give him children. Those same girls, who once dreamed of marriage; have now convinced themselves that marriage is irrelevant because they don't want to stir the pot.
Marriage is not just a piece of paper, it is a lifetime committment that should be taken seriously. Perhaps if everyone quit sleeping around, having bastard children and stopped cheating...more women would have the self esteem to stand up for themselves and their boyfriends would make that committment.
In some states, after a while of living together and doing all the things that married couples do.. you are considered 'common law' married. If you have kids together and do all the things that married people do, then, I'm sure the woman you are with DOES feel like you want a commitment with her. I would guess the one who professes to be so against marriage isn't really against it at all. Either that or they are afraid to file for a marriage license for some reason. Who knows?
well in the olden days you couldnt live together or have children without being treated bad and pointed at but in the 21st C we have started to cohabit etc without judgment etc and being a couple married or not we are living as though we are so i guess it is the same. you wouldnt know if a couple living together in this day and age are married or not unless you asked them or saw their rings.
Probably because they cant see the point of spending so much time and/or money on getting ';officialy'; married. They know their commitment to each other %26amp; thats all that matters. Also, some of them dont believe in god, so a religious ceremony is pointless...some also view the courts in a bad light (%26amp; who can blame them, the justice system is screwed) so they dont bother making it official in the legal sense either, %26amp; why should they when all it involves is giving money to some beaurecrat. A legal contract between two people isnt very romantic anyway, staying together just on free will is tho.
The commitment that a marriage vow brings, makes petty differences more likely to be hammered out.
Marriage counselors Les and Leslie Parrott have an idea.
In their excellent book Saving Your Marriage Before It Starts, they suggest four myths that have torpedoed many marriages because of unrealistic expectations and misconceptions about what marriage should be. In what follows, we鈥檒l look at four marriage myths that are the most harmful and most common: http://www.probe.org/site/c.fdKEIMNsEoG/鈥?/a>
鈥?We expect exactly the same things from marriage.
鈥?Everything good in our marriage will get better.
鈥?Everything bad in my life will disappear.
鈥?My spouse will make me whole.
Every marriage is between two broken and fallen people who cannot make each other whole. We are called to love and respect each other, serve and celebrate each other鈥攂ut only God can make us whole.
';Happily ever after'; may be for fairy tales, but that doesn鈥檛 mean there is no such thing as a happy, rich, fulfilling marriage. But it鈥檚 only possible for those who live in reality, not in the fantasy of make-believe myths. May God give us grace to trust Him to walk in truth and not illusion.
so when one of you kicks the bucket, you can claim the house. they have legal rights you know. so yes in that respect they are right, they have the same legal rights as spouses, you just paid a hell of a lot more for that piece of paper, and you will have to pay a lot more to have that paper destroyed. not terribly economical really...
I think they feel that if they fully committ to the other in marriage, that they will take advantage of that and become a rotten person whereas if youre single and dating, you have to try to make sure they dont leave you.
But I say if you feel that way about the other person, then maybe you shouldnt be with them in the first place if you are not willing to fully committ to them.
It's called FEAR my friend. Why would you buy the gallon of milk when you can have the COW for free. Get my point.
I think it's stupid. It honestly comes down to FEAR. That's it.
But... I do believe in a test drive. I would preffer to live with someone for a few years and make sure that we can stand living with each other. BUT... We both gotta be one the same page that we have marriage in mind and in the future.
Your totally right. I mean look at the answers on here. They are still skirtting around the issue. None of them will come out and say WHY they insist that marriage doesn't mean anything. It's the same because it ';just is';. What a stupid answer. Being married and living together is not the same. However, those that are living together CAN'T tell you why it is the same or isn't because they have never what??? oh right THEY'VE NEVER BEEN MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pretend that they are married? Think about what your saying there lol.
So they are together and acting like couples act, being married will not change the way they act. At the end of the day, it IS just a peice of paper. It will not change anything about their relationship together.
Living together is nothing more than a fear based union, two scared people. On top of easy sex for him and insecurity issues for her. This is why it doesn't last, even if they get married. The 20 somethings are the most popular group that do this kinda thing.
They don't pretend to be married, they behave as a couple; married couples also behave as couples; this is why it looks similar from the outside. Both married and unmarried couples strive towards the same goals.
most states recognize this as a marriage. Its called a ';common law marriage'. Something after 5-7 years or so of living together, it is legal marriage. no paperwork nessasary.
They're not pretending that they're married they are living together and that is how living together is the same as marriage so why would you need something that says you're married?
I wouldn't say they are ';PRETENDING'; to be married.......they're just marching to the beat of their own drum. It may have ';marriage'; similarities but they feel more ';free'; because their situation is not legally binding..........
I'm an atheist, so my beliefs aren't motivated by any ridiculous fear of sin. Married is married, living together is not. I agree with your point.
Its not the same thing but instead of drinking haterade its better to just let them do what they do. You aren't going to change their mind.
Because it is the same. Duh! The tele says so anyway, so let's not question the box of infinite wisdom. Obey!
Yes I agree with you.
Why aren't they proud to be not married.
i agree with konstant
Once again I have to agree with you Drew. Living together and being married ARE 2 different things. And for some people being married is taboo but living together is just fine. I have to chalk it up to hypocrisy. When you ask most people who live together, they are just fine with their arraignment but when you mention marriage, all of a sudden ';Its just a piece of paper that means nothing';. Muppet0000 said its all the same at the end of the day. NO, IT';S NOT THE SAME. If your ';pretend spouse'; goes into the hospital can you sign the papers?, Disconnect them from the life support?, Give the go ahead to administer medication?, What happens when you two ';divorce';? Who gets what? What happens when your ';spouse'; owns the house and then kicks you out? I have a good friend of mine who's in his 80's who calls shacking up ';The cowards marriage';.Why do people who PRETEND to be married insist that marriage doesn't mean anythiing?
Well that's a good question though a lot of people have gone along
with this experiment (though they will claim it is not ) and in the end
whats there to do ?
Either go ahead and give in and accept that it is the same and why
not by law give your children a last name instead of ...............
Someone i know did this for years in their partnership till one day
the family thought they saw the light, And married for their children's
and relationships sake. Though nothing had changed.
I am a good observer and i feel the people who chose to hang ten on
marriage are the ones most stubborn they see things their way and
no other and in the end what is there to do ?
# Marry # Separate # Divorce # Stick together
In the end it's the same choices for all of us.
They aren't pretending anything. They have a commitment to each other just like any legally married couple, they just don't see the need for a silly ceremony and a piece of paper. That's how people used to live before marriage ceremonies were even invented, before 'the church' told us all that not having a ceremony was 'living in sin' and you'll go to hell. What rot! Anyway, that's about all I can think of to this silly question.
People lack morals and girls give ';it'; away without committment. My mom always used to say ';why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?'; and that has been proven to be true these past few decades. Men don't have to put a ring on a girl's finger if she's willing to put out and give him children. Those same girls, who once dreamed of marriage; have now convinced themselves that marriage is irrelevant because they don't want to stir the pot.
Marriage is not just a piece of paper, it is a lifetime committment that should be taken seriously. Perhaps if everyone quit sleeping around, having bastard children and stopped cheating...more women would have the self esteem to stand up for themselves and their boyfriends would make that committment.
In some states, after a while of living together and doing all the things that married couples do.. you are considered 'common law' married. If you have kids together and do all the things that married people do, then, I'm sure the woman you are with DOES feel like you want a commitment with her. I would guess the one who professes to be so against marriage isn't really against it at all. Either that or they are afraid to file for a marriage license for some reason. Who knows?
well in the olden days you couldnt live together or have children without being treated bad and pointed at but in the 21st C we have started to cohabit etc without judgment etc and being a couple married or not we are living as though we are so i guess it is the same. you wouldnt know if a couple living together in this day and age are married or not unless you asked them or saw their rings.
Probably because they cant see the point of spending so much time and/or money on getting ';officialy'; married. They know their commitment to each other %26amp; thats all that matters. Also, some of them dont believe in god, so a religious ceremony is pointless...some also view the courts in a bad light (%26amp; who can blame them, the justice system is screwed) so they dont bother making it official in the legal sense either, %26amp; why should they when all it involves is giving money to some beaurecrat. A legal contract between two people isnt very romantic anyway, staying together just on free will is tho.
The commitment that a marriage vow brings, makes petty differences more likely to be hammered out.
Marriage counselors Les and Leslie Parrott have an idea.
In their excellent book Saving Your Marriage Before It Starts, they suggest four myths that have torpedoed many marriages because of unrealistic expectations and misconceptions about what marriage should be. In what follows, we鈥檒l look at four marriage myths that are the most harmful and most common: http://www.probe.org/site/c.fdKEIMNsEoG/鈥?/a>
鈥?We expect exactly the same things from marriage.
鈥?Everything good in our marriage will get better.
鈥?Everything bad in my life will disappear.
鈥?My spouse will make me whole.
Every marriage is between two broken and fallen people who cannot make each other whole. We are called to love and respect each other, serve and celebrate each other鈥攂ut only God can make us whole.
';Happily ever after'; may be for fairy tales, but that doesn鈥檛 mean there is no such thing as a happy, rich, fulfilling marriage. But it鈥檚 only possible for those who live in reality, not in the fantasy of make-believe myths. May God give us grace to trust Him to walk in truth and not illusion.
so when one of you kicks the bucket, you can claim the house. they have legal rights you know. so yes in that respect they are right, they have the same legal rights as spouses, you just paid a hell of a lot more for that piece of paper, and you will have to pay a lot more to have that paper destroyed. not terribly economical really...
I think they feel that if they fully committ to the other in marriage, that they will take advantage of that and become a rotten person whereas if youre single and dating, you have to try to make sure they dont leave you.
But I say if you feel that way about the other person, then maybe you shouldnt be with them in the first place if you are not willing to fully committ to them.
It's called FEAR my friend. Why would you buy the gallon of milk when you can have the COW for free. Get my point.
I think it's stupid. It honestly comes down to FEAR. That's it.
But... I do believe in a test drive. I would preffer to live with someone for a few years and make sure that we can stand living with each other. BUT... We both gotta be one the same page that we have marriage in mind and in the future.
Your totally right. I mean look at the answers on here. They are still skirtting around the issue. None of them will come out and say WHY they insist that marriage doesn't mean anything. It's the same because it ';just is';. What a stupid answer. Being married and living together is not the same. However, those that are living together CAN'T tell you why it is the same or isn't because they have never what??? oh right THEY'VE NEVER BEEN MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pretend that they are married? Think about what your saying there lol.
So they are together and acting like couples act, being married will not change the way they act. At the end of the day, it IS just a peice of paper. It will not change anything about their relationship together.
Living together is nothing more than a fear based union, two scared people. On top of easy sex for him and insecurity issues for her. This is why it doesn't last, even if they get married. The 20 somethings are the most popular group that do this kinda thing.
They don't pretend to be married, they behave as a couple; married couples also behave as couples; this is why it looks similar from the outside. Both married and unmarried couples strive towards the same goals.
most states recognize this as a marriage. Its called a ';common law marriage'. Something after 5-7 years or so of living together, it is legal marriage. no paperwork nessasary.
They're not pretending that they're married they are living together and that is how living together is the same as marriage so why would you need something that says you're married?
I wouldn't say they are ';PRETENDING'; to be married.......they're just marching to the beat of their own drum. It may have ';marriage'; similarities but they feel more ';free'; because their situation is not legally binding..........
I'm an atheist, so my beliefs aren't motivated by any ridiculous fear of sin. Married is married, living together is not. I agree with your point.
Its not the same thing but instead of drinking haterade its better to just let them do what they do. You aren't going to change their mind.
Because it is the same. Duh! The tele says so anyway, so let's not question the box of infinite wisdom. Obey!
Yes I agree with you.
Why aren't they proud to be not married.
i agree with konstant
Is it possible to have sex on Fable II without marriage?
I keep seducing people but they say they have to wait until marriage.
Is it possible to have multiple wives/husbands?Is it possible to have sex on Fable II without marriage?
Just go up to some hookers and call them sexy and all of that stuff.Is it possible to have sex on Fable II without marriage?
Yes it is possible to have multiple husbands/wives it is actually an achievement for (I believe) 10 Gamer Score. Depending on how far you are in the game there is one town (maybe Bloodstone) with a lot of ';action'; you can tell be the way he/she is dressed and when you get that person to like you enough go to your home with them following.
You just have to look for the right people! :p
When you target a villager and press Y to see more about them, if it says they're raunchy (just under the name, above likes) then a bit of flirting and a come back to my place and they're all yours. You can also pick up more than one raunchy person if your looking for a bit more fun...
And yes, you can have multiple spouses, but if they find out about each other, then there's bound to be trouble. Hope this helped!
ya just go find a prostitute and give them the thumbs up expression or comeback to my place expression theyre located at bloodstone and also get about 5-6 prostitutes and do as i said and go have sex and you can get a acheivment
most likely,you could in fable 1,i would do it in every town,i dont know about premarridle sex since i dont have 2 :(
You can find a hooker in Old Bowerstone or in Bloodstone (I think that's what it's called). You can also have multiple wives/husbands but if they find out about each other it wont be pretty.
find some hookers or as me and my friend call them Wild Boars (if you catch my drift)
Is it possible to have multiple wives/husbands?Is it possible to have sex on Fable II without marriage?
Just go up to some hookers and call them sexy and all of that stuff.Is it possible to have sex on Fable II without marriage?
Yes it is possible to have multiple husbands/wives it is actually an achievement for (I believe) 10 Gamer Score. Depending on how far you are in the game there is one town (maybe Bloodstone) with a lot of ';action'; you can tell be the way he/she is dressed and when you get that person to like you enough go to your home with them following.
You just have to look for the right people! :p
When you target a villager and press Y to see more about them, if it says they're raunchy (just under the name, above likes) then a bit of flirting and a come back to my place and they're all yours. You can also pick up more than one raunchy person if your looking for a bit more fun...
And yes, you can have multiple spouses, but if they find out about each other, then there's bound to be trouble. Hope this helped!
ya just go find a prostitute and give them the thumbs up expression or comeback to my place expression theyre located at bloodstone and also get about 5-6 prostitutes and do as i said and go have sex and you can get a acheivment
most likely,you could in fable 1,i would do it in every town,i dont know about premarridle sex since i dont have 2 :(
You can find a hooker in Old Bowerstone or in Bloodstone (I think that's what it's called). You can also have multiple wives/husbands but if they find out about each other it wont be pretty.
find some hookers or as me and my friend call them Wild Boars (if you catch my drift)
Is there a website that you can view North Carolina marriage licenses and death records or obituaries?
without paying for them.....Is there a website that you can view North Carolina marriage licenses and death records or obituaries?
Two things affect what you are asking..
One, if you are talking about historical records (for ancestry).. many of those are posted in free locations. You normally need to focus on the likely county. www.usgenweb.com is a free network of county sites.
Second.. if you want recent records.. there is a difference between death records, obits, and marriages. The 2nd involves living persons. Yes, they are public records. No, that does not mean they are always online. The social security death index has data for deaths from about the 1960s to now. You can use the advanced search to narrow a name to one state or even county (if they died elsewhere, ie the major hospital in a big town instead of home, it can show up that way).
For a general commentary, no.. there is not a central location to find any kind of record. IF you are more specific, what you want is OFTEN out there. Focus what you are looking for.Is there a website that you can view North Carolina marriage licenses and death records or obituaries?
I'm going to give you the following link:
http://www.deathindexes.com/northcarolin鈥?/a>
This page has several links... some are free others are not. As you can see, there are several things available on Ancestry.com. Ancestry does require a subscription; however, there are a couple of ways to work around this.
1) Check your local library. Most libraries have a subscription to Ancestry available for their patrons use. You can go to your library and hunt and peck until your heart's content.
OR
2) If there is a particular person you are looking for that you think may appear in these indexes, you can try to post a specific question to Y!A. There are a lot of people here who have memberships that would be happy to look up death records for you.
Both options are absolutely free!! Also, never underestimate the individual county's Genweb page. Also check this out.
http://www.cyndislist.com/nc.htm
This is a list of Several links specific to North Carolina. Hopefully they will be of help as well. Take care and good luck.
Two things affect what you are asking..
One, if you are talking about historical records (for ancestry).. many of those are posted in free locations. You normally need to focus on the likely county. www.usgenweb.com is a free network of county sites.
Second.. if you want recent records.. there is a difference between death records, obits, and marriages. The 2nd involves living persons. Yes, they are public records. No, that does not mean they are always online. The social security death index has data for deaths from about the 1960s to now. You can use the advanced search to narrow a name to one state or even county (if they died elsewhere, ie the major hospital in a big town instead of home, it can show up that way).
For a general commentary, no.. there is not a central location to find any kind of record. IF you are more specific, what you want is OFTEN out there. Focus what you are looking for.Is there a website that you can view North Carolina marriage licenses and death records or obituaries?
I'm going to give you the following link:
http://www.deathindexes.com/northcarolin鈥?/a>
This page has several links... some are free others are not. As you can see, there are several things available on Ancestry.com. Ancestry does require a subscription; however, there are a couple of ways to work around this.
1) Check your local library. Most libraries have a subscription to Ancestry available for their patrons use. You can go to your library and hunt and peck until your heart's content.
OR
2) If there is a particular person you are looking for that you think may appear in these indexes, you can try to post a specific question to Y!A. There are a lot of people here who have memberships that would be happy to look up death records for you.
Both options are absolutely free!! Also, never underestimate the individual county's Genweb page. Also check this out.
http://www.cyndislist.com/nc.htm
This is a list of Several links specific to North Carolina. Hopefully they will be of help as well. Take care and good luck.
Is sending a candy gram an appropriate way to propose marriage?
Milk Duds or Junior Mints?Is sending a candy gram an appropriate way to propose marriage?
It depends on what you send. Is it a Kiss, or a Mars Bar. Baby Ruth or Licorice Whip? Big Daddy or Gummy Ball(s)? An All Day Sucker or Candy Cane? This sounds like a con. Dumb you!Is sending a candy gram an appropriate way to propose marriage?
if you and your future bride like things like this go for it. but personally i would rather have someone to propose to me in person in a unique way. either by taking her out to a fancy restaurant where they play live music and have them hand the microphone over to you and ask her in front of everyone. or even have the Madrid's to drop her diamond into a glass of champagne and hand it to her. or have her come on stage and you bend down on your knees in front of everyone and propose to her. you want your proposal to be one that she will never forget and will all-ways cherish.
I like the idea. You can have them come deliver it and say ';Will You Marry Me?'; And when she looks up she can see you down on one knee holding a ring.
Do what you think is special for the both of you. Do what you think she would really like.
But I'd go with Milk Duds they sound better, but that's probably because I don't like junior mints.
Good luck I really hope she likes this sweet idea.
I'd think you could spring for something a little fancier, like Godiva chocolates. After all, you are saving on an expensive dinner and getting dressed up. If I really wanted it, I might say okay with the junior mints proposal. I don't like Milk Duds, they get stuck in my teeth.
I'd go with the Junior Mints ;-) I think a candy gram is a cute idea.
Anything that is special to you and your lady is just fine. Just make sure you're close by to deliver her engagement ring after her proposal!
Not unless your the messenger. I find proposal a very personal question and should be asked face to face unless your right there next to her and you have it written in the sky or some ish.
Yeah, don't go with the ';Duds'; she might get turned off. How about Hershey kisses? Junior Mints are 'different';, sounds interesting.
Yeah, but it wouldn't be as memorabel as a stripper gram! The stripper can have will you marry me writtin on his butt! Woohoo!
Dude where have you been? You propose through text message!
And Duh Milk Duds we love caramel and the removal of any fillings we may have left!
No way unless you are delivering it.
Absolutely..she'll be sweet for you in no time. I'll go with Milk Duds.
To a candy striper ....yes....lol
It depends on what you send. Is it a Kiss, or a Mars Bar. Baby Ruth or Licorice Whip? Big Daddy or Gummy Ball(s)? An All Day Sucker or Candy Cane? This sounds like a con. Dumb you!Is sending a candy gram an appropriate way to propose marriage?
if you and your future bride like things like this go for it. but personally i would rather have someone to propose to me in person in a unique way. either by taking her out to a fancy restaurant where they play live music and have them hand the microphone over to you and ask her in front of everyone. or even have the Madrid's to drop her diamond into a glass of champagne and hand it to her. or have her come on stage and you bend down on your knees in front of everyone and propose to her. you want your proposal to be one that she will never forget and will all-ways cherish.
I like the idea. You can have them come deliver it and say ';Will You Marry Me?'; And when she looks up she can see you down on one knee holding a ring.
Do what you think is special for the both of you. Do what you think she would really like.
But I'd go with Milk Duds they sound better, but that's probably because I don't like junior mints.
Good luck I really hope she likes this sweet idea.
I'd think you could spring for something a little fancier, like Godiva chocolates. After all, you are saving on an expensive dinner and getting dressed up. If I really wanted it, I might say okay with the junior mints proposal. I don't like Milk Duds, they get stuck in my teeth.
I'd go with the Junior Mints ;-) I think a candy gram is a cute idea.
Anything that is special to you and your lady is just fine. Just make sure you're close by to deliver her engagement ring after her proposal!
Not unless your the messenger. I find proposal a very personal question and should be asked face to face unless your right there next to her and you have it written in the sky or some ish.
Yeah, don't go with the ';Duds'; she might get turned off. How about Hershey kisses? Junior Mints are 'different';, sounds interesting.
Yeah, but it wouldn't be as memorabel as a stripper gram! The stripper can have will you marry me writtin on his butt! Woohoo!
Dude where have you been? You propose through text message!
And Duh Milk Duds we love caramel and the removal of any fillings we may have left!
No way unless you are delivering it.
Absolutely..she'll be sweet for you in no time. I'll go with Milk Duds.
To a candy striper ....yes....lol
Why do people equate a girls losing her virginity before marriage with having no self respect?
I stopped by the family section the other day and someone asked a question about why girls weren't smart enough to stay virgins and all the people kept saying it was because they have no self respect.
Now I would really like if someone could explain to me how a girl willingly participating in the act of showing love for a another person has to do with having no self respect because I don't see it. Why do people equate a girls losing her virginity before marriage with having no self respect?
I'm with you on that one.
I've never understood why people should wait till marriage. No actually, not people, women/girls.
Apparently it is not ok to do something totally natural unless you are married.
Sex before marriage ftw ;)Why do people equate a girls losing her virginity before marriage with having no self respect?
I don't see it as meaning that a girl has no self-respect. I see it as meaning she has different values than I do, since I believe in waiting until marriage. However, if a woman sleeps around, has one-night stands, sells her body (either as a hooker, stripper or both), than I see her as having no self respect, as she clearly sees herself as an object rather than as a person and endangers her health in the process. My husband and I are each other's one and only. I think that's too priceless to assign it a monetary value.
That is kind of silly, I agree. But who cares who is with who, it if they are doing it for love or just doing it to do it. I have run into people I know that could care a less if folks knowk who they sleep with or have slept with. Life is meant to be fun, and if that is how people like their fun, go for it. The only bad thing though is that clamdayia is so common place now adays and it is not a high profile vinerearal disease,, but can cause some rather nasty pelvic inflammatory disease and cause women to not to be able to have babies.
Other then that I would tell the moralzing nazi question person to move to China, Cuba, and Canada where folks like then tell people how to live, this it the USA.
Self respect has a lot to do with knowing yourself and feeling comfortable with your choices. If a girl feels that she wants and is ready to have sex before marriage and she makes that choice with full awareness of all its consequenses, then she HAS self respect. Likewise if she chooses not to.
It's all down to personal choice, self belief, and confidence to do what makes YOU happy, without worrying what other people think!
In Christianity it was a sin to have sex before marriage and so a girl who had lost her virginity before marriage had committed a sin wilfully and if she had self respect she would not commit the sin. Though I believe it is a perfectly fine thing to do.
whores, hookers girls like that may have no self respect. but yeah I agree with you, that doesn't make any sense..
be yourself. that will save you always.
Your question is loaded with assumptions.
Sex is not the same thing as love.
Spreading legs for sex is not the same thing as showing love.
I think the answerers were telling you an answer you didn't want to hear. I think, in general, most girls are perceived as giving up their virginity as not doing it for love... but for a hunger for approval because of a failure of strength of identity.
Would you have problems with the following questions and answers? You might not.
How insecure are teenagers, on average? Quite a bit.
Are girls, on average, much more insecure than boys? Yup.
Will teenage girls do stupid things because of their insecurity? yup.
The putting of those together with the sexual experience makes an answer of a girl giving it up because of no self respect very plausible.
Here is more data:
I have seen interviews with convicted pimps where they talk about how they recruit 12-15 year old girls as prostitutes. They all talk about how the easier recruits - the ones that are most controllable - are the ones with no self respect. Irrespective of beauty - the girls with no self respect, when given attention and put in the right (terrible) circumstances are the more profitable to turn into a life of prostitution.
You can not deny or refute that there is a connection between young girls having no identity, no self respect - and their willingness to debase themselves in sexual ways for attention.
You dont have to like it, but if you are being intellectually honest with yourself, you cant just discard it.
That is in general. Its statistics. Its not in specific. There are likely some who do it for love.. but thats not the common reason - but the uncommon.
This is mostly in reaction/continuation to Sr Egr. As a woman of a certain age, former girl, having lived in different countries, I would say that most girls/women everywhere do it for love (in the moment, it is love, and once a female has sex with a man, the attachment hormone kicks in). The love motivation is every bit as strong, overwhelming, and precocious for girls as the overt sexual urges of males. Girls are pre-wired for the relationship part of love, and get practice from early on, just as boys get so much practice with their thingy from tiny tot on, so both are kind of ready to spring into action their area of expertise, so to speak.
I won't go into all the societal aspects that have tradtionally shaped people's attitudes. Many of them are still in play, at least subconsciously, and at the same time society as a whole, male/female roles, individual empowerment have been turned llitterally inside out, upside down and expanded at exponential rates in the last 2 generations. There is still a lot of adapting to do, on all levels. There's breakage, inefficiency, innovation on the way - an awful lot of human pain, frustration, growth and joy.
The problems (unadapted response) do often come from females' poor self-esteem. We still haven't really worked that one out yet. Most girls/women still seem to have a built-in problem with self confidence - feeling damned if they have it (too egotistical), and damned if they don't (won't succeed in modern world). Is this really hard-wired (nature), or all learned (nurture)?
The other thing all people do is project: boy projects his sexual desire on girl, assumes she's on same wave-length for wanting sex for iself, and once he gets it, well that's good - men are admired for ';getting'; something from others; girl projects her desire for loving relationship onto boy, and if he accepts her, assumes he wants to share love, but when he's gone, that's bad - she gave away something for nothing. Ya can't win fer losin'.
Look, Hun, sex isn't really a way to show love unless you're actually in love with the person. A lot of young girls think they are in love when in actuality it is just infatuation. They give in to sex because they are being pressured or they just want to know what it feels like. I don't think that anyone is truly ready for sex until they are ready to have children. That is why no one has any respect for someone who has sex before they are ready. Do you have any respect for teenage mothers? You may feel sorry for them, but a teenage mother is not a person that most people look up to.oil industry
Now I would really like if someone could explain to me how a girl willingly participating in the act of showing love for a another person has to do with having no self respect because I don't see it. Why do people equate a girls losing her virginity before marriage with having no self respect?
I'm with you on that one.
I've never understood why people should wait till marriage. No actually, not people, women/girls.
Apparently it is not ok to do something totally natural unless you are married.
Sex before marriage ftw ;)Why do people equate a girls losing her virginity before marriage with having no self respect?
I don't see it as meaning that a girl has no self-respect. I see it as meaning she has different values than I do, since I believe in waiting until marriage. However, if a woman sleeps around, has one-night stands, sells her body (either as a hooker, stripper or both), than I see her as having no self respect, as she clearly sees herself as an object rather than as a person and endangers her health in the process. My husband and I are each other's one and only. I think that's too priceless to assign it a monetary value.
That is kind of silly, I agree. But who cares who is with who, it if they are doing it for love or just doing it to do it. I have run into people I know that could care a less if folks knowk who they sleep with or have slept with. Life is meant to be fun, and if that is how people like their fun, go for it. The only bad thing though is that clamdayia is so common place now adays and it is not a high profile vinerearal disease,, but can cause some rather nasty pelvic inflammatory disease and cause women to not to be able to have babies.
Other then that I would tell the moralzing nazi question person to move to China, Cuba, and Canada where folks like then tell people how to live, this it the USA.
Self respect has a lot to do with knowing yourself and feeling comfortable with your choices. If a girl feels that she wants and is ready to have sex before marriage and she makes that choice with full awareness of all its consequenses, then she HAS self respect. Likewise if she chooses not to.
It's all down to personal choice, self belief, and confidence to do what makes YOU happy, without worrying what other people think!
In Christianity it was a sin to have sex before marriage and so a girl who had lost her virginity before marriage had committed a sin wilfully and if she had self respect she would not commit the sin. Though I believe it is a perfectly fine thing to do.
whores, hookers girls like that may have no self respect. but yeah I agree with you, that doesn't make any sense..
be yourself. that will save you always.
Your question is loaded with assumptions.
Sex is not the same thing as love.
Spreading legs for sex is not the same thing as showing love.
I think the answerers were telling you an answer you didn't want to hear. I think, in general, most girls are perceived as giving up their virginity as not doing it for love... but for a hunger for approval because of a failure of strength of identity.
Would you have problems with the following questions and answers? You might not.
How insecure are teenagers, on average? Quite a bit.
Are girls, on average, much more insecure than boys? Yup.
Will teenage girls do stupid things because of their insecurity? yup.
The putting of those together with the sexual experience makes an answer of a girl giving it up because of no self respect very plausible.
Here is more data:
I have seen interviews with convicted pimps where they talk about how they recruit 12-15 year old girls as prostitutes. They all talk about how the easier recruits - the ones that are most controllable - are the ones with no self respect. Irrespective of beauty - the girls with no self respect, when given attention and put in the right (terrible) circumstances are the more profitable to turn into a life of prostitution.
You can not deny or refute that there is a connection between young girls having no identity, no self respect - and their willingness to debase themselves in sexual ways for attention.
You dont have to like it, but if you are being intellectually honest with yourself, you cant just discard it.
That is in general. Its statistics. Its not in specific. There are likely some who do it for love.. but thats not the common reason - but the uncommon.
This is mostly in reaction/continuation to Sr Egr. As a woman of a certain age, former girl, having lived in different countries, I would say that most girls/women everywhere do it for love (in the moment, it is love, and once a female has sex with a man, the attachment hormone kicks in). The love motivation is every bit as strong, overwhelming, and precocious for girls as the overt sexual urges of males. Girls are pre-wired for the relationship part of love, and get practice from early on, just as boys get so much practice with their thingy from tiny tot on, so both are kind of ready to spring into action their area of expertise, so to speak.
I won't go into all the societal aspects that have tradtionally shaped people's attitudes. Many of them are still in play, at least subconsciously, and at the same time society as a whole, male/female roles, individual empowerment have been turned llitterally inside out, upside down and expanded at exponential rates in the last 2 generations. There is still a lot of adapting to do, on all levels. There's breakage, inefficiency, innovation on the way - an awful lot of human pain, frustration, growth and joy.
The problems (unadapted response) do often come from females' poor self-esteem. We still haven't really worked that one out yet. Most girls/women still seem to have a built-in problem with self confidence - feeling damned if they have it (too egotistical), and damned if they don't (won't succeed in modern world). Is this really hard-wired (nature), or all learned (nurture)?
The other thing all people do is project: boy projects his sexual desire on girl, assumes she's on same wave-length for wanting sex for iself, and once he gets it, well that's good - men are admired for ';getting'; something from others; girl projects her desire for loving relationship onto boy, and if he accepts her, assumes he wants to share love, but when he's gone, that's bad - she gave away something for nothing. Ya can't win fer losin'.
Look, Hun, sex isn't really a way to show love unless you're actually in love with the person. A lot of young girls think they are in love when in actuality it is just infatuation. They give in to sex because they are being pressured or they just want to know what it feels like. I don't think that anyone is truly ready for sex until they are ready to have children. That is why no one has any respect for someone who has sex before they are ready. Do you have any respect for teenage mothers? You may feel sorry for them, but a teenage mother is not a person that most people look up to.
Do you know any Christian books online that are about marriage saving?
I mean how to save your marriage using the Bible and Christian life.Do you know any Christian books online that are about marriage saving?
sorry, no idea at all.Do you know any Christian books online that are about marriage saving?
What We Wish We'd Known When We Were Newlyweds by John Bytheway and Kimberly Bytheway
2.74 on amazon.
Mainly written for Mormons but really will help, my wife and i found it very useful.
really good really funny.
my wife also found this one very helpful
Strangling Your Husband Is Not an Option: A Practical Guide to Dramatically Improving Your Marriage
hope this helps
yes. go to church and tend the marriage confrense groups thats what everybody does and i think that you should pray with your wife and stuff
You can never go wrong with joel osteen
and watch tbn
benny hin
anybody!
or you could go to berean and tey would show you the books
hope i helped
:D
If you would like more answers, consider asking around this site as well...
http://christianforums.com
sorry, no idea at all.Do you know any Christian books online that are about marriage saving?
What We Wish We'd Known When We Were Newlyweds by John Bytheway and Kimberly Bytheway
2.74 on amazon.
Mainly written for Mormons but really will help, my wife and i found it very useful.
really good really funny.
my wife also found this one very helpful
Strangling Your Husband Is Not an Option: A Practical Guide to Dramatically Improving Your Marriage
hope this helps
yes. go to church and tend the marriage confrense groups thats what everybody does and i think that you should pray with your wife and stuff
You can never go wrong with joel osteen
and watch tbn
benny hin
anybody!
or you could go to berean and tey would show you the books
hope i helped
:D
If you would like more answers, consider asking around this site as well...
http://christianforums.com
What is the difference between a domestic partnership and a marriage?
i know glbt people can get domestic partnership in some states, but can a man and woman get a domestic partnership in those states? and if one has a domestic partnership is it possible they cannot spend the other person's money?What is the difference between a domestic partnership and a marriage?
';can a man and woman get a domestic partnership in those states';
No, as this is a homosexual designation for a ';marriage';.
';and if one has a domestic partnership is it possible they cannot spend the other person's money?';
Only if one is given the power to do so.What is the difference between a domestic partnership and a marriage?
If someone asks a person if they are married, they can say yes (or no). With a domestic partnership, if someone asks the person if they are married, they have to explain. It's not familiar and most people don't even know what it means except that the person is gay. Married means the couple (usually) share a home, their lives, their financial obligations, their love, and that they are in a committed, long term relationship. Everyone gets it. Domestic partnership is not familiar.
Domestic partnership is also known as same-sex marriage and does not include (for obvious reasons) hetero's.
No a man and woman can get married in any US state legally. There are some states that recognize common law marriages. These are informal marriages that says two people are married based on time of living together by the governing state they reside. Not all states support common law marriages. But a common law marriage is the same a regular marriage in some states. You would have to do some research on your state laws.
no because domestic partership is the name for a same sex marraige. just like same sex couples couldn't get a certificate that says marraige, because that is for hetero couples. at least in most states i believe.
It's like ham %26amp; eggs:
The chicken is obligated, the pig is committed.
';can a man and woman get a domestic partnership in those states';
No, as this is a homosexual designation for a ';marriage';.
';and if one has a domestic partnership is it possible they cannot spend the other person's money?';
Only if one is given the power to do so.What is the difference between a domestic partnership and a marriage?
If someone asks a person if they are married, they can say yes (or no). With a domestic partnership, if someone asks the person if they are married, they have to explain. It's not familiar and most people don't even know what it means except that the person is gay. Married means the couple (usually) share a home, their lives, their financial obligations, their love, and that they are in a committed, long term relationship. Everyone gets it. Domestic partnership is not familiar.
Domestic partnership is also known as same-sex marriage and does not include (for obvious reasons) hetero's.
No a man and woman can get married in any US state legally. There are some states that recognize common law marriages. These are informal marriages that says two people are married based on time of living together by the governing state they reside. Not all states support common law marriages. But a common law marriage is the same a regular marriage in some states. You would have to do some research on your state laws.
no because domestic partership is the name for a same sex marraige. just like same sex couples couldn't get a certificate that says marraige, because that is for hetero couples. at least in most states i believe.
It's like ham %26amp; eggs:
The chicken is obligated, the pig is committed.
What is the earliest recorded account of something resembling a marriage?
The linked item below states that marriage existed 5000 years ago, and that the earliest written marriage record is about 2500 years old.What is the earliest recorded account of something resembling a marriage?
The way you presented your question, Adam and Eve fit the bill.What is the earliest recorded account of something resembling a marriage?
because you are not asking a proper question the only true answer is adam and eve.
The way you presented your question, Adam and Eve fit the bill.What is the earliest recorded account of something resembling a marriage?
because you are not asking a proper question the only true answer is adam and eve.
What to talk when meeting a girl for a pre-marriage meeting?
Hi,
I shall soon be meeting a girl (and a family) whom my parents have chosen for me to get married to.
I will soon be in a situation where I'll find myself sitting alone with the girl, and most importantly required to decide about our married life. If it's going to work or not etc etc...
Can you pls suggest what should be asked (or things) that can be the topic of discussion at the moment.
Thanks,
NWhat to talk when meeting a girl for a pre-marriage meeting?
Why are having your parents chose who you are going to marry? that makes no sense your not in the 18th century anymore, why can't you find a bride yourself???What to talk when meeting a girl for a pre-marriage meeting?
Discuss your values, what do you both feel is important.
Talk about children, how do you think you should raise them, what kind of schooling should they have, what religious values should they have... what method of discipline matters to you.
Discuss pets.... talk about jobs and education for yourselves... where do you both see yourself going and how will you get there.
Do you both want to stay where you live.. or do you plan on living somewhere else?
Talk about MONEY, how you will pay bills, who will keep track of it, your thoughts on credit cards and spending practices, saving practices.
These are very important and you will find if you will like her or not by asking these questions.
Discuss your values, what do you both feel is important.
Talk about children, how do you think you should raise them, what kind of schooling should they have, what religious values should they have... what method of discipline matters to you.
Discuss pets.... talk about jobs and education for yourselves... where do you both see yourself going and how will you get there.
Do you both want to stay where you live.. or do you plan on living somewhere else?
Talk about MONEY, how you will pay bills, who will keep track of it, your thoughts on credit cards and spending practices, saving practices.
These are very important and you will find if you will like her or not by asking these questions.
just go with the flow.don't plan anything,it surely doesn't go according to the desired plan when one is present in such a sitution. just talk about your school, college,your hobbies and workplace etc etc.....
i know it gets a little intense so make sure you make the girl comfortable and just try and be little polite and caring
i think that'll seal the deal....
just talk like a friend and ask their name
I shall soon be meeting a girl (and a family) whom my parents have chosen for me to get married to.
I will soon be in a situation where I'll find myself sitting alone with the girl, and most importantly required to decide about our married life. If it's going to work or not etc etc...
Can you pls suggest what should be asked (or things) that can be the topic of discussion at the moment.
Thanks,
NWhat to talk when meeting a girl for a pre-marriage meeting?
Why are having your parents chose who you are going to marry? that makes no sense your not in the 18th century anymore, why can't you find a bride yourself???What to talk when meeting a girl for a pre-marriage meeting?
Discuss your values, what do you both feel is important.
Talk about children, how do you think you should raise them, what kind of schooling should they have, what religious values should they have... what method of discipline matters to you.
Discuss pets.... talk about jobs and education for yourselves... where do you both see yourself going and how will you get there.
Do you both want to stay where you live.. or do you plan on living somewhere else?
Talk about MONEY, how you will pay bills, who will keep track of it, your thoughts on credit cards and spending practices, saving practices.
These are very important and you will find if you will like her or not by asking these questions.
Discuss your values, what do you both feel is important.
Talk about children, how do you think you should raise them, what kind of schooling should they have, what religious values should they have... what method of discipline matters to you.
Discuss pets.... talk about jobs and education for yourselves... where do you both see yourself going and how will you get there.
Do you both want to stay where you live.. or do you plan on living somewhere else?
Talk about MONEY, how you will pay bills, who will keep track of it, your thoughts on credit cards and spending practices, saving practices.
These are very important and you will find if you will like her or not by asking these questions.
just go with the flow.don't plan anything,it surely doesn't go according to the desired plan when one is present in such a sitution. just talk about your school, college,your hobbies and workplace etc etc.....
i know it gets a little intense so make sure you make the girl comfortable and just try and be little polite and caring
i think that'll seal the deal....
just talk like a friend and ask their name
Can a rocky marriage become stronger from a baby?
My friend and her husband married after a few months of knowing each other. They are celebrating their 2nd anniversary and up until 3 months ago they had a bad marriage and planned to divorce. For the past 2 months they have been rebuilding their marriage and say things are much better.
My friend got pregnant and it wasn't planned. She said she isn't sure that they will be married forever, but it taking it one day at a time.
Can a rocky marriage become stronger from a baby? Did your baby affect your marriage negatively? Do you have any happy stories for my friend?Can a rocky marriage become stronger from a baby?
I don't think its the baby that made a rocky a marriage better - it was the couple who decided to make things better for their baby. A rocky marriage usually has underlying issues that just don't go away because there is a baby involved. I'm glad to hear that they are both working on it and should continue to do so until well after the baby is born so that once the euphoria of a new baby wears off they don't go back to their old ways. I wish them luck!Can a rocky marriage become stronger from a baby?
NO Tell he to be preparred to be a single parent.
He MAY stick around a little longer. And depending on how rocky the marriage is will depend on how long he stays.
No, if she keeps this baby, the marriage is almost certainly doomed. Guys don't like when girls get pregnant to trap them, and wether she did this or not, that's how he'll probably see it.
Is she willing to risk losing him and being a single mother? If not, she should abort sooner rather than later.
The people that I have known that had a bad marriage and brought a child into the picture made their marriage worse because children can be stressful and most of the couples are now divorced.
It sounds like the marriage has been getting better, and that was before the pregnancy so that's good. My husband and I have always had a 'rough' marriage and dating period. We've never considered divorce, and really do rely on each other a lot. When I unexpectedly got pregnant 9 months into the marriage, it was extremely stressful on him because of the prospect of being a good dad and supporting us, and on me because of finances and not being able to work. After he was born, we still found a bunch to fight about, but no matter how much we disliked each other or were mad, we'd just see OUR son do something cute or amazing and we'd look over at each other and smile. We had a connection that no one else could, or would ever, share with us.
Our son is now three, and I want another! It's been very stressful for Honey to have a child in the house, and he's not ready for a second at all. Children ADD stress and issues you never thought about, or didn't discuss before hand, but also bring a connection not achieved through any other means.
Tell your friend that they have to be respectful to each other as individual parents. My husband doesn't do everything I think he should or shouldn't as a dad, but he is, and always will be, my sons DAD, as he is, and all I can be is the best mom I can. I hold my tongue a lot, as I'm sure my husband does, but doing this has created more of a harmonious atmosphere for our child to grow up in. Another thing: it's easy to fight in front of an infant and feel like it won't affect them, but as they grow you continue to fight infront of them. NEVER have a heated argument in the same room as the baby. Protect them at all times.
Tell her my heart goes out to her! It's totally possible to have a secure marriage with loving parents!
NOOOOOOOO, children need a strong foundation, or they will tear it apart.
Honestly, I think it depends on how well your friend and her husband work together and how much they want to save their marriage.
A baby can strain the most stable relationship, so keeping the lines of communication open is vital.
I don't know, a baby will make or break a relationship.
No having a baby can not save a marriage. My Dad tried that with his first marriage. The marriage only lasted 7 years after his birth. They were only married for 10 years. My parents have been married for 40 years this Nov.
I also had a friend who tried the baby thing and there marriage only lasted 3 years after the birth of their baby!
Having a baby to save a marriage is not a good idea! Your marriage should be very healthy to bring a child into it!
Truthfully, I don't think so.
Sorry, I've seen people try and it just not help
Well, in most cases a baby won't make a marriage strong. but if theyr'e really working on their marriage and love each other maybe the baby could be the best thing that ever happened for them.
it most definately will not help the marriage. it may give them more reason to try to work things out, but if things are rocky a baby will only make things harder. babies can be very stressful at times which may raise tension in the house. i wish the best of luck to your friend, it is going to be tough but it is possible to work things out. maybe they should try to get some marriage counseling
Been there done that. It adds more responsibility and usually makes the man run the other way.
A baby brings all new stresses to a marriage. Yes, a new baby is someone to love and a cuddle but new babies are a lot of work and that's work that should have gone into your friend's marriage. I would tell your friends to go to Dr. Joy Browne's website and take notes. They really need to take time to listen to each other. I suspect, base upon 17 years of marriage, that they are talking at each other instead of talking to each other. While she's pregnant your friend and her hubby should start with a weekly date night so they have time together to talk away from the stresses of the house and job.
Dear Friend:
I am sorry to say that a baby coming in to an already rocky marriage will not change anything for the better...with a new child, there will be more difficulties regarding findances, child-rearing and the list goes on...If your friends' marriage is in jeopardy already--this will make matters worse. The only thing that could/may help them is professional counselling...it is obvious that both parties have opted for divorce and we all know that divorces can get very messy and when children are involved the messier it can get. Most importantly, the life and welfare of the child will be disrupted....Just stand by and support your friend and be there whenever he/she needs you....Good Luck. V
If they cannot get along and want to be together with just the 2 of them then no baby will hold them together.
A baby will tie anyone to you. They may make it work but like i said a baby will not make it any better if the love is gone or they are not wanting to be together.
my marriage was rocky from the start..when i found out i was pregnant, it got a little better, but after she was born, it got even worse than before..i have since divorced him and it has been so much better for my daughter and myself..bringing a child into an already bad relationship can either go well or not..my life was the or not..if your friend isnt happy, suggest they either go to a marriage counselor, or call it quits..the life for her baby would be better without all the fighting and negativity while growing up..its not healthy..sorry i dont have a happy story for her..hope some of this has helped..
Most parents will probably agree that their greatest frustration comes from their children. However, thier greatest happiness comes from thier kids too. Kids can push and pull. They can wipe you out and call out for more. I think that kids put more strain on a relationship then they help it. Good luck.
No ,,children put a lot of stress and strain on a relationship. The problem is when the baby is born the husband is forgotten, the wife (mom) does everything for the baby and the husband sits on the back burner. sorry!
NO!!!!!!!!The short and simple answer.....
i'm not sure a baby would fix a rocky marriage
probably if the parents cared for the baby
to have a good life, they would try to fix it up
like solve all their problems
Unfortunately most of the time a baby, especially one that was not expected will bring more stress %26amp; instability to an already rocky marriage. The baby is only that, a baby. You have to choose to love your spouse whether you ';feel'; like it or not. I guess when you have a child you experience real love for the first time. There is this tiny helpless thing that cries %26amp; poops all over itself and you may be tired %26amp; cranky but you still love it %26amp; care for it. That is how you are supposed to love your spouse and anyone else for that matter. S/he may be tired %26amp; cranky %26amp; dump all over you, but you committed in marriage to love in thickness %26amp; thin, good times %26amp; bad whether you feel like it or not. If they want their marriage to work they need to be willing to put themselves last in every instance for the better of the “relationship”.
As I said the baby is just a baby. You cannot depend on that tiny helpless child to keep the marriage together. Each must take responsibility for their responsibilities %26amp; duties within the partnership of marriage. I have found nothing but truth from God and God has helped me to see marriage in a new way. My marriage was very rocky to say the least, we had our child after 2 or 3 years of a rocky marriage (with the same thought, “that it would fix things!”) %26amp; it neither fixed it or made it worse…It was what it was; a baby, another person dependant on “both” of us. He added stress, he took up our time but he couldn’t counsel us, or use words to tell us how much he wanted both a loving mom %26amp; dad to be with all the time. He was not even a part of my thinking when I was so terribly unhappy that I just wanted OUT! We sought counseling, %26amp; God %26amp; counseling from God. And we are still together today, stronger than ever, but not because of the baby! Honestly, not having had a child wouldn’t have made my decision to leave any less difficult.
They really need to look at why their marriage is rocky in the first place…My guess is that one or both of them is taking more from the relationship than they are giving back. If you constantly put into your relationship, when hardship comes you have someplace to draw from things like comfort %26amp; love, etc. If you never put into your relationship what can you get back? They need to ask themselves am I a “What’s in it for me?” person or a, “what can I do for you?” person? You get what you give, if you want unconditional love you must give unconditional love, if you want security you must first give security, etc. They need to humble themselves if they really want it to work! (And leave the baby out of all of it, s/he neither made their problems nor can s/he take them away!)
My husband and I fell in love at first sight. We met in 2003, got married in 2005 and had a son May 30, 2006... We have a strong marriage and you soo need a strong foundtion before you being another person into this world. When our son was born (8 months ago) we had NO idea what we were in for. My life has completely changed, whereas my husband's life, not so much. He still goes to work every morning and does his fly fishing on the weekends early in the morning. Our son brings such joy to our lives, as well as needing attention all the time, which we are both more than happy to give him because we both love him so much.
What i am trying to say, is that you need to rebulid BEFORE you can have a baby....although sometimes it isnt planned. Your friend needs to go to thearpy wiht her husband ASAP, if they plan on staying together...Good luck to the both of them
lets see, we met, fell deeply in love, had our share of problems,got preg 3mos after meeting,which i swore would never happen to me so early in a relationship, which is why i waited until 35,problems continued through preg.,baby was briefly in NICU,then more problems,but post partum depression was our reeeeaaaalll kicker. i want to raise more awareness to it b/c it literally drove me to a phonebook looking for a divorce. i felt better after ppd is gone,though our problems are not gone,and believe me, problems are a fact of life, but the second yr looks VERY much positive, moving is what will ultimately save our problems, a fresh clean slate to start over....we are the lucky few that have been given the chance to start over and rebuild our lives...whilst a better life for our daughter. so yes, she did affect our marriage, but when 2 people accept life's challenges, including child birth, then they are truly abiding their vows.
My husband just said (and he's divorced with a 14 year old son) that
';having a baby distracts you a lot';. In the event that they divorce I hope your friend and her husband keep in mind that a child is not a 'thing' to be fought over. My stepson is pretty well adjusted because his parents never brought him into the fight and they do not speak ill of each other in front of him and neither do I. That's the best they can do. Do babies make rocky marriages stronger? Absolutely not.
Even in a healthy marriage sysmic adjustments have to be made.
I hope she is being realistic about her expectations.
My friend got pregnant and it wasn't planned. She said she isn't sure that they will be married forever, but it taking it one day at a time.
Can a rocky marriage become stronger from a baby? Did your baby affect your marriage negatively? Do you have any happy stories for my friend?Can a rocky marriage become stronger from a baby?
I don't think its the baby that made a rocky a marriage better - it was the couple who decided to make things better for their baby. A rocky marriage usually has underlying issues that just don't go away because there is a baby involved. I'm glad to hear that they are both working on it and should continue to do so until well after the baby is born so that once the euphoria of a new baby wears off they don't go back to their old ways. I wish them luck!Can a rocky marriage become stronger from a baby?
NO Tell he to be preparred to be a single parent.
He MAY stick around a little longer. And depending on how rocky the marriage is will depend on how long he stays.
No, if she keeps this baby, the marriage is almost certainly doomed. Guys don't like when girls get pregnant to trap them, and wether she did this or not, that's how he'll probably see it.
Is she willing to risk losing him and being a single mother? If not, she should abort sooner rather than later.
The people that I have known that had a bad marriage and brought a child into the picture made their marriage worse because children can be stressful and most of the couples are now divorced.
It sounds like the marriage has been getting better, and that was before the pregnancy so that's good. My husband and I have always had a 'rough' marriage and dating period. We've never considered divorce, and really do rely on each other a lot. When I unexpectedly got pregnant 9 months into the marriage, it was extremely stressful on him because of the prospect of being a good dad and supporting us, and on me because of finances and not being able to work. After he was born, we still found a bunch to fight about, but no matter how much we disliked each other or were mad, we'd just see OUR son do something cute or amazing and we'd look over at each other and smile. We had a connection that no one else could, or would ever, share with us.
Our son is now three, and I want another! It's been very stressful for Honey to have a child in the house, and he's not ready for a second at all. Children ADD stress and issues you never thought about, or didn't discuss before hand, but also bring a connection not achieved through any other means.
Tell your friend that they have to be respectful to each other as individual parents. My husband doesn't do everything I think he should or shouldn't as a dad, but he is, and always will be, my sons DAD, as he is, and all I can be is the best mom I can. I hold my tongue a lot, as I'm sure my husband does, but doing this has created more of a harmonious atmosphere for our child to grow up in. Another thing: it's easy to fight in front of an infant and feel like it won't affect them, but as they grow you continue to fight infront of them. NEVER have a heated argument in the same room as the baby. Protect them at all times.
Tell her my heart goes out to her! It's totally possible to have a secure marriage with loving parents!
NOOOOOOOO, children need a strong foundation, or they will tear it apart.
Honestly, I think it depends on how well your friend and her husband work together and how much they want to save their marriage.
A baby can strain the most stable relationship, so keeping the lines of communication open is vital.
I don't know, a baby will make or break a relationship.
No having a baby can not save a marriage. My Dad tried that with his first marriage. The marriage only lasted 7 years after his birth. They were only married for 10 years. My parents have been married for 40 years this Nov.
I also had a friend who tried the baby thing and there marriage only lasted 3 years after the birth of their baby!
Having a baby to save a marriage is not a good idea! Your marriage should be very healthy to bring a child into it!
Truthfully, I don't think so.
Sorry, I've seen people try and it just not help
Well, in most cases a baby won't make a marriage strong. but if theyr'e really working on their marriage and love each other maybe the baby could be the best thing that ever happened for them.
it most definately will not help the marriage. it may give them more reason to try to work things out, but if things are rocky a baby will only make things harder. babies can be very stressful at times which may raise tension in the house. i wish the best of luck to your friend, it is going to be tough but it is possible to work things out. maybe they should try to get some marriage counseling
Been there done that. It adds more responsibility and usually makes the man run the other way.
A baby brings all new stresses to a marriage. Yes, a new baby is someone to love and a cuddle but new babies are a lot of work and that's work that should have gone into your friend's marriage. I would tell your friends to go to Dr. Joy Browne's website and take notes. They really need to take time to listen to each other. I suspect, base upon 17 years of marriage, that they are talking at each other instead of talking to each other. While she's pregnant your friend and her hubby should start with a weekly date night so they have time together to talk away from the stresses of the house and job.
Dear Friend:
I am sorry to say that a baby coming in to an already rocky marriage will not change anything for the better...with a new child, there will be more difficulties regarding findances, child-rearing and the list goes on...If your friends' marriage is in jeopardy already--this will make matters worse. The only thing that could/may help them is professional counselling...it is obvious that both parties have opted for divorce and we all know that divorces can get very messy and when children are involved the messier it can get. Most importantly, the life and welfare of the child will be disrupted....Just stand by and support your friend and be there whenever he/she needs you....Good Luck. V
If they cannot get along and want to be together with just the 2 of them then no baby will hold them together.
A baby will tie anyone to you. They may make it work but like i said a baby will not make it any better if the love is gone or they are not wanting to be together.
my marriage was rocky from the start..when i found out i was pregnant, it got a little better, but after she was born, it got even worse than before..i have since divorced him and it has been so much better for my daughter and myself..bringing a child into an already bad relationship can either go well or not..my life was the or not..if your friend isnt happy, suggest they either go to a marriage counselor, or call it quits..the life for her baby would be better without all the fighting and negativity while growing up..its not healthy..sorry i dont have a happy story for her..hope some of this has helped..
Most parents will probably agree that their greatest frustration comes from their children. However, thier greatest happiness comes from thier kids too. Kids can push and pull. They can wipe you out and call out for more. I think that kids put more strain on a relationship then they help it. Good luck.
No ,,children put a lot of stress and strain on a relationship. The problem is when the baby is born the husband is forgotten, the wife (mom) does everything for the baby and the husband sits on the back burner. sorry!
NO!!!!!!!!The short and simple answer.....
i'm not sure a baby would fix a rocky marriage
probably if the parents cared for the baby
to have a good life, they would try to fix it up
like solve all their problems
Unfortunately most of the time a baby, especially one that was not expected will bring more stress %26amp; instability to an already rocky marriage. The baby is only that, a baby. You have to choose to love your spouse whether you ';feel'; like it or not. I guess when you have a child you experience real love for the first time. There is this tiny helpless thing that cries %26amp; poops all over itself and you may be tired %26amp; cranky but you still love it %26amp; care for it. That is how you are supposed to love your spouse and anyone else for that matter. S/he may be tired %26amp; cranky %26amp; dump all over you, but you committed in marriage to love in thickness %26amp; thin, good times %26amp; bad whether you feel like it or not. If they want their marriage to work they need to be willing to put themselves last in every instance for the better of the “relationship”.
As I said the baby is just a baby. You cannot depend on that tiny helpless child to keep the marriage together. Each must take responsibility for their responsibilities %26amp; duties within the partnership of marriage. I have found nothing but truth from God and God has helped me to see marriage in a new way. My marriage was very rocky to say the least, we had our child after 2 or 3 years of a rocky marriage (with the same thought, “that it would fix things!”) %26amp; it neither fixed it or made it worse…It was what it was; a baby, another person dependant on “both” of us. He added stress, he took up our time but he couldn’t counsel us, or use words to tell us how much he wanted both a loving mom %26amp; dad to be with all the time. He was not even a part of my thinking when I was so terribly unhappy that I just wanted OUT! We sought counseling, %26amp; God %26amp; counseling from God. And we are still together today, stronger than ever, but not because of the baby! Honestly, not having had a child wouldn’t have made my decision to leave any less difficult.
They really need to look at why their marriage is rocky in the first place…My guess is that one or both of them is taking more from the relationship than they are giving back. If you constantly put into your relationship, when hardship comes you have someplace to draw from things like comfort %26amp; love, etc. If you never put into your relationship what can you get back? They need to ask themselves am I a “What’s in it for me?” person or a, “what can I do for you?” person? You get what you give, if you want unconditional love you must give unconditional love, if you want security you must first give security, etc. They need to humble themselves if they really want it to work! (And leave the baby out of all of it, s/he neither made their problems nor can s/he take them away!)
My husband and I fell in love at first sight. We met in 2003, got married in 2005 and had a son May 30, 2006... We have a strong marriage and you soo need a strong foundtion before you being another person into this world. When our son was born (8 months ago) we had NO idea what we were in for. My life has completely changed, whereas my husband's life, not so much. He still goes to work every morning and does his fly fishing on the weekends early in the morning. Our son brings such joy to our lives, as well as needing attention all the time, which we are both more than happy to give him because we both love him so much.
What i am trying to say, is that you need to rebulid BEFORE you can have a baby....although sometimes it isnt planned. Your friend needs to go to thearpy wiht her husband ASAP, if they plan on staying together...Good luck to the both of them
lets see, we met, fell deeply in love, had our share of problems,got preg 3mos after meeting,which i swore would never happen to me so early in a relationship, which is why i waited until 35,problems continued through preg.,baby was briefly in NICU,then more problems,but post partum depression was our reeeeaaaalll kicker. i want to raise more awareness to it b/c it literally drove me to a phonebook looking for a divorce. i felt better after ppd is gone,though our problems are not gone,and believe me, problems are a fact of life, but the second yr looks VERY much positive, moving is what will ultimately save our problems, a fresh clean slate to start over....we are the lucky few that have been given the chance to start over and rebuild our lives...whilst a better life for our daughter. so yes, she did affect our marriage, but when 2 people accept life's challenges, including child birth, then they are truly abiding their vows.
My husband just said (and he's divorced with a 14 year old son) that
';having a baby distracts you a lot';. In the event that they divorce I hope your friend and her husband keep in mind that a child is not a 'thing' to be fought over. My stepson is pretty well adjusted because his parents never brought him into the fight and they do not speak ill of each other in front of him and neither do I. That's the best they can do. Do babies make rocky marriages stronger? Absolutely not.
Even in a healthy marriage sysmic adjustments have to be made.
I hope she is being realistic about her expectations.
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