Not unless you really want to, or you will regret it. Some people just aren't the marrying type. Those people shouldn't marry or they will just hurt their spouses.Is it necessary to convert a dating relationship into marriage after few years?
It depends on what each partner wants. Most people date with the intention of finding a marriage partner. It's it ';necessary?'; No. The question is, what does each person in the relationship want? If they're both fine dating and don't have intentions to marry, then fine. However, usually after a few years, people tend to marry because they feel they know their partner well enough and want to spend their lives together. On the other hand, some people don't feel they need to get married to spend their lives together. And lastly, some people don't have the intention of spending their lives with someone, even if they're dating for a few years.
So like I said, it depends on the person. Of course every relationship is not the same.Is it necessary to convert a dating relationship into marriage after few years?
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No, it鈥檚 not at all necessary. Dating relationships are never compulsions to marriage, if you love or like somebody after dating you can enter into a lifetime relationship. No forceful relationships are ever successful and marriage is a very important decision that should be taken wisely not only for the sake that you dated someone for years but now marrying him or her even if there is no compatibility judged.
Not unless you both agree that it's necessary. Personally I don't see the need for marriage unless you are planning on having children. Then there's always the issue of his (her) SSI. You might just want to consider that. Could be beneficial depending on the # of yrs. you were married.
If someone is dating for the same girl for few years continuously then it does mean that the girl and the boy are attracted to each other and their thoughts are matching then naturally this dating relation has to be converted in to marriage.
In my opinion,it's wise take the time to really get to know the person you want to spend the rest of your life with.
No not unless you both plan on making it a forever commitment.
Friday, July 30, 2010
Are you Catholic but disagree with the no gay marriage policy?
I'm catholic but think it's fine for gay marriage?
Am I the only one?
Do you think they should accept to give a gay marriage ceremony?Are you Catholic but disagree with the no gay marriage policy?
I'm Catholic and I'm in 100% agreement with the church's stance on gay marriage.
God never changed His mind about homosexuality, but we as humans who are fickle and learn to conform to trends have allowed ourselves to actually believe that, all of a sudden, it's okay.
And I know I'll get a lot of thumbs down just because I'm on the side of God, but these are the signs of the times and the few that choose good over evil will receive their reward in heaven. %26lt;';)))%26gt;%26lt;Are you Catholic but disagree with the no gay marriage policy?
I am catholic and do not disagree with the churches policy on gay marriage because to change it they would have to change all the rules of the church.
I do believe that gays should be able to get married civilly and in any church that wants to support it. Why should the catholic church change there stand on it.
Yes, I am Catholic.
No, I do not disagree with the Church's Scriptural and Traditional doctrine on Marriage.
The Catholic Church believes that God himself is the author of marriage and has created it for one man and one woman.
The Church further teaches that being homosexual is not a sin but that all single people (heterosexual and homosexual) are called to celibacy.
For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church:
About marriage, section 1601 and following: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt2s鈥?/a>
About homosexuality. section 2357 and following: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt3s鈥?/a>
http://www.catholic.com/library/gay_marr鈥?/a>
With love in Christ.
im a christian and i believe gay is ok
and my gram is catholic and she thinks there is nuttin wrong with being gay
I think gays should have the same rights as everyone just like we did when black people had no rights you see now when people starting to accept gays the world will find someone else to dis on because thats how this world is one BIG IMMATURE WORLD
love your neighbor as yourself.
I am Catholic, and Homosexual.
The Holy Mother Church will not and should not corrupt the institution of marriage.That would be wrong. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Homosexuals will be purged of their sin in Purgatory before entering the Kingdom. That is the Law.
Awesome!
So I was wondering, and I've always wanted to ask. One of the beliefs of Catholicism is that the Pope is infallible. The Pope says that the act of homosexuality is a sin. How do you reconcile that, personally? I am not trying to provoke or anything, I was just raised Catholic and have since left the Church for a variety of reasons, and because I left at such a young age I never learned how that sort of thing works on a personal level. :) Please email me!!
I'm a former Eastern European Orthodox. Now I'm atheist. I can't be part of something that goes against what I know is right.
You're not the only one. There are lots of gay catholics, and catholics who support gay marrige.
I don't think they should have a choice! I think they must be obligated to preform same sex marriges!
I'm Catholic and stand with the Church's teaching. Marriage is only for a man and a woman. This is because it is sacramental, a union created by God. Therefore, we have no ownership in it and no right to redefine it.
God bless.
I'm Christian but the majority of Christians disagree with gay marriage. I believe that gay marriage should be allowed.
I mean, why do those freakin religious addicts care about two people with similar beliefs marrying. They need to get a life.
Well I was Catholic for the majority of my life and I disagree with the policy.
I'm not Catholic, but I know several who are cool with the gays getting married.
No, you are not the only one I'm catholic as well and i'm bi.lip gloss
Am I the only one?
Do you think they should accept to give a gay marriage ceremony?Are you Catholic but disagree with the no gay marriage policy?
I'm Catholic and I'm in 100% agreement with the church's stance on gay marriage.
God never changed His mind about homosexuality, but we as humans who are fickle and learn to conform to trends have allowed ourselves to actually believe that, all of a sudden, it's okay.
And I know I'll get a lot of thumbs down just because I'm on the side of God, but these are the signs of the times and the few that choose good over evil will receive their reward in heaven. %26lt;';)))%26gt;%26lt;Are you Catholic but disagree with the no gay marriage policy?
I am catholic and do not disagree with the churches policy on gay marriage because to change it they would have to change all the rules of the church.
I do believe that gays should be able to get married civilly and in any church that wants to support it. Why should the catholic church change there stand on it.
Yes, I am Catholic.
No, I do not disagree with the Church's Scriptural and Traditional doctrine on Marriage.
The Catholic Church believes that God himself is the author of marriage and has created it for one man and one woman.
The Church further teaches that being homosexual is not a sin but that all single people (heterosexual and homosexual) are called to celibacy.
For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church:
About marriage, section 1601 and following: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt2s鈥?/a>
About homosexuality. section 2357 and following: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt3s鈥?/a>
http://www.catholic.com/library/gay_marr鈥?/a>
With love in Christ.
im a christian and i believe gay is ok
and my gram is catholic and she thinks there is nuttin wrong with being gay
I think gays should have the same rights as everyone just like we did when black people had no rights you see now when people starting to accept gays the world will find someone else to dis on because thats how this world is one BIG IMMATURE WORLD
love your neighbor as yourself.
I am Catholic, and Homosexual.
The Holy Mother Church will not and should not corrupt the institution of marriage.That would be wrong. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Homosexuals will be purged of their sin in Purgatory before entering the Kingdom. That is the Law.
Awesome!
So I was wondering, and I've always wanted to ask. One of the beliefs of Catholicism is that the Pope is infallible. The Pope says that the act of homosexuality is a sin. How do you reconcile that, personally? I am not trying to provoke or anything, I was just raised Catholic and have since left the Church for a variety of reasons, and because I left at such a young age I never learned how that sort of thing works on a personal level. :) Please email me!!
I'm a former Eastern European Orthodox. Now I'm atheist. I can't be part of something that goes against what I know is right.
You're not the only one. There are lots of gay catholics, and catholics who support gay marrige.
I don't think they should have a choice! I think they must be obligated to preform same sex marriges!
I'm Catholic and stand with the Church's teaching. Marriage is only for a man and a woman. This is because it is sacramental, a union created by God. Therefore, we have no ownership in it and no right to redefine it.
God bless.
I'm Christian but the majority of Christians disagree with gay marriage. I believe that gay marriage should be allowed.
I mean, why do those freakin religious addicts care about two people with similar beliefs marrying. They need to get a life.
Well I was Catholic for the majority of my life and I disagree with the policy.
I'm not Catholic, but I know several who are cool with the gays getting married.
No, you are not the only one I'm catholic as well and i'm bi.
What did your parents teach you about sex? Did they urge you to be a virgin before marriage?
I'm just curious why parents urge kids to be a virgin and what about the parents who raised kids that have sex all the time...what did they say to their kids?What did your parents teach you about sex? Did they urge you to be a virgin before marriage?
me and my mom are super close, so we've talked about it a lot. she didn't tell me that I had to be a virgin until i got married. This is because she loves me and trusts me to not be stupid and irresponsible, which I'm not. I have absolutely no plan to have sex until I'm mature enough, in love, and ready to deal with the consequences, like pregnancy and STD'sWhat did your parents teach you about sex? Did they urge you to be a virgin before marriage?
my parents haven't talk to me about it
i guess the assume i already know about it
like about a month ago i learned that a friend of mines was pregnant and is exspecting a child. %26amp; my mom used that as an example with me in the car (my aunt and cousin were in the car too) and my aunt and my mom said ';please don't ever come home telling me your pregnant at your age'; and then my aunt agreed. they said get on some pills and wrap it up --%26gt; if you have to do it
me and my cousin were both laughing.. but my aunt and mom were serious but saying it in joking way.
my mom never mentioned anything about marraige before sex
but i know that i should wait until later in live to be ';involved';
besides im a good girl my mom and dad raised me well and i know better i know not to do drugs, cut school and all that stuff i listen well in health class
but no my parents never told me to wait until marriage
nor did we really have a sex talk
since im the youngest in my family my older sibbling was ';involved'; in his teen years and my parents used to talk to him about that stuff ( i used to over hear them talking)anyways my brother is an adult now
well when i started asking about sex, my parents told me.
my parents never really urged me to be a virgin when i get married (how could they? they found out i was coming and then got married), but they expect me to be responsible and to not get knocked up when im only 14. however, i do plan on staying a virgin...
never.
i got it from school.
my health teacher baiscally talked to the guys in my classs while the girls listemed.
she told them never to pressure a girl.
not to go around telling everyone she wasn't a virgin if you were the one to take her virginity just because she didn't bleed.
use a condom
and all that good stuff
my parents are religious and they told me to wait... the told me to to late and I wouldn't have listed any how (I an one of the kids who has sex all the time!)
well im 17 has taught i should wait till im married bcuz thats the way she was raised however she does tell me that iif i do to at least use protection so i could avoid been pregnant or any diseases.
My parents have never talked to me about sex. But we are Christian so they will want me to wait until marriage, which I will do.
My parents expect that I have that moral, and I do. We never had the discussion. We took sex ed in school.
My mom never talked to me much but I know I will talk to my daughter about it and not make her feel uncomfortable about it.
mine said marriage when its totally cool. and wait for the girl you love and marry you then its way more not awkward. and theres no shamein it
No I basically found my moral by myself. Basically you will know the time is right it will feel right. So no.
My mum just told me to be careful, and not to be talked into having sex by careless boys....';When your ready';
she didn't teach me anything. my sister told me to always wear a condom then dhe said wait til im married. i think my mother not teaching me anything is the main reason why im not a virgin at 15
My parents told me to wait til marriage because it is God's will.
I still haven't done it.
Yay!
Yeah, my parents never talked to me about sex :PP
they didnt to me
me and my mom are super close, so we've talked about it a lot. she didn't tell me that I had to be a virgin until i got married. This is because she loves me and trusts me to not be stupid and irresponsible, which I'm not. I have absolutely no plan to have sex until I'm mature enough, in love, and ready to deal with the consequences, like pregnancy and STD'sWhat did your parents teach you about sex? Did they urge you to be a virgin before marriage?
my parents haven't talk to me about it
i guess the assume i already know about it
like about a month ago i learned that a friend of mines was pregnant and is exspecting a child. %26amp; my mom used that as an example with me in the car (my aunt and cousin were in the car too) and my aunt and my mom said ';please don't ever come home telling me your pregnant at your age'; and then my aunt agreed. they said get on some pills and wrap it up --%26gt; if you have to do it
me and my cousin were both laughing.. but my aunt and mom were serious but saying it in joking way.
my mom never mentioned anything about marraige before sex
but i know that i should wait until later in live to be ';involved';
besides im a good girl my mom and dad raised me well and i know better i know not to do drugs, cut school and all that stuff i listen well in health class
but no my parents never told me to wait until marriage
nor did we really have a sex talk
since im the youngest in my family my older sibbling was ';involved'; in his teen years and my parents used to talk to him about that stuff ( i used to over hear them talking)anyways my brother is an adult now
well when i started asking about sex, my parents told me.
my parents never really urged me to be a virgin when i get married (how could they? they found out i was coming and then got married), but they expect me to be responsible and to not get knocked up when im only 14. however, i do plan on staying a virgin...
never.
i got it from school.
my health teacher baiscally talked to the guys in my classs while the girls listemed.
she told them never to pressure a girl.
not to go around telling everyone she wasn't a virgin if you were the one to take her virginity just because she didn't bleed.
use a condom
and all that good stuff
my parents are religious and they told me to wait... the told me to to late and I wouldn't have listed any how (I an one of the kids who has sex all the time!)
well im 17 has taught i should wait till im married bcuz thats the way she was raised however she does tell me that iif i do to at least use protection so i could avoid been pregnant or any diseases.
My parents have never talked to me about sex. But we are Christian so they will want me to wait until marriage, which I will do.
My parents expect that I have that moral, and I do. We never had the discussion. We took sex ed in school.
My mom never talked to me much but I know I will talk to my daughter about it and not make her feel uncomfortable about it.
mine said marriage when its totally cool. and wait for the girl you love and marry you then its way more not awkward. and theres no shamein it
No I basically found my moral by myself. Basically you will know the time is right it will feel right. So no.
My mum just told me to be careful, and not to be talked into having sex by careless boys....';When your ready';
she didn't teach me anything. my sister told me to always wear a condom then dhe said wait til im married. i think my mother not teaching me anything is the main reason why im not a virgin at 15
My parents told me to wait til marriage because it is God's will.
I still haven't done it.
Yay!
Yeah, my parents never talked to me about sex :PP
they didnt to me
My fiancee is undocumented and we plan to wed soon will there be problem obtaining a marriage license?
i'm a u.s citizen but is my fiancee is undocumented, and we plan on getting married within the next weeks in city hall located in new york city.My fiancee is undocumented and we plan to wed soon will there be problem obtaining a marriage license?
Depends on where you live in, but probably not. If you run into a problem in one place, you can always try somewhere else.*
For example, Alabama has a state law that prohibits the issuance of marriage licenses to anyone without a social security number. Some counties enforce it; others do not.
*But why on God's green earth would you trash your life by marrying a criminal? There is nothing good to come out of this, nothing at all.
And ProUSA2 below me is correct. This isn't going to help her become legal any sooner.My fiancee is undocumented and we plan to wed soon will there be problem obtaining a marriage license?
Most places allow you to get married with the paperwork stated (But not all). After the marriage you face 5 years federal prison and/or a $250,000 fine for aiding and abetting. Your fiancee faces deportation and a 10 year to life ban from the US. As there is no way to make your fiancee legal from the US I would advise a very long honeymoon in the country of your fiancee if you can legally live there!
Even if you get married to this illegal criminal alien , what if she's deported next week?? What if she's deported 3 years from now after she has 2 children and you are left to raise them ALONE??
Marriage won't make her legal.
Instead of worrying about the marriage, what's she doing about what REALLY matters, and that's becoming LEGAL???
Do what Amanda says BEFORE you get married to save heartache later!!!!!!
As I said, the most important thing is NOT marriage, it's making her status LEGAL...she's criticizing others, and offering the SAME advice!!!!
THINK before you act!!!! Research this deeply. Don't jump right into something that can ruin your marriage and family.
She鈥檚 going to have to show some ID, most likely they won鈥檛 ask if she is here legally or not.
But, big but, you really need to think about this long and hard, let鈥檚 say in few years something happens and your wife is deported, then what? At best you鈥檒l wait 10 years to have a shot at bringing her back into the states.
What are you going to tell your children, if you have any, when mommy has to go away? Can you afford to travel back and forth between the US and what ever country your fianc茅e is from with your kids in tow?
Or worst yet, you go to jail for harboring and illegal alien, then your children would lose both their mom and dad. So while mom is being deported and you鈥檙e in jail, your kids get a nice trip to foster care.
And all it鈥檒l take is ONE person checking her background, maybe for a job, maybe because she get into a car accident, or any other number of things that could cause someone to check her background.
Call a lawyer and find out what you need to do to bring her in the country legally or you could spend the rest of your life looking over your shoulder wondering if tomorrow your wife might get deported.
My gut feeling is you are going to marry her anyway. You KNOW she's an illegal criminal alien, yet you are trying to marry her any way possible.
If you are smart, you will follow the advice of the people above and think about this before you jump into what could be the biggest mistake of your life.
Make her legal first before you marry her. If she's deported after you are married...then what??
She may have to wait 10 years before being able to reapply for admission to the country.
you are aiding and abetting a criminal and can go to jail. you need to read some of the stories on here of how people thought they were in a good marriage with an illegal and got screwed over, i know she would never do that, yea right!!! report and deport.
In some states, the court requests for SS card and US government issued ID. Check with the court clerk.
Don't listen to anything that those negative haters have to say.People that cant answer you questions shouldn't post anything, hence why its called YAHOO ANSWERS not YAHOO GIVE ME YOUR STUPID OPINION. Anyhow, my husband and I were married In Arkansas and they request any kind of ID, even a fishing license will do. we got married at little bell chapel. And as far as him not being legal once you get married he can be legal very easily get a Good lawyer it will not be easy if he has been deported in the past or if he has any kind of background with drugs alcohol or violence. If he does reconsider marriage.
No there should not be any problems, all you need is sum type of id to get ur marriage license! You're free to marry whoever, even if they're undocumented!
Congrats!!! :o))
Don't listen to Kat M as you can see peole on this site are negative and hateful!! If you're in love go for it!!!
oh %26amp; i was reading others comments saying there is no way to make her legal...that's a lie. Once you are married get a lawyer %26amp; get all the paperwork needed for her to be a permanent resident, its going to cost you but its worth it. The 10 year ban is not true most leave the country for only a few months and are allowed back in. So good luck to ya!
Depends on where you live in, but probably not. If you run into a problem in one place, you can always try somewhere else.*
For example, Alabama has a state law that prohibits the issuance of marriage licenses to anyone without a social security number. Some counties enforce it; others do not.
*But why on God's green earth would you trash your life by marrying a criminal? There is nothing good to come out of this, nothing at all.
And ProUSA2 below me is correct. This isn't going to help her become legal any sooner.My fiancee is undocumented and we plan to wed soon will there be problem obtaining a marriage license?
Most places allow you to get married with the paperwork stated (But not all). After the marriage you face 5 years federal prison and/or a $250,000 fine for aiding and abetting. Your fiancee faces deportation and a 10 year to life ban from the US. As there is no way to make your fiancee legal from the US I would advise a very long honeymoon in the country of your fiancee if you can legally live there!
Even if you get married to this illegal criminal alien , what if she's deported next week?? What if she's deported 3 years from now after she has 2 children and you are left to raise them ALONE??
Marriage won't make her legal.
Instead of worrying about the marriage, what's she doing about what REALLY matters, and that's becoming LEGAL???
Do what Amanda says BEFORE you get married to save heartache later!!!!!!
As I said, the most important thing is NOT marriage, it's making her status LEGAL...she's criticizing others, and offering the SAME advice!!!!
THINK before you act!!!! Research this deeply. Don't jump right into something that can ruin your marriage and family.
She鈥檚 going to have to show some ID, most likely they won鈥檛 ask if she is here legally or not.
But, big but, you really need to think about this long and hard, let鈥檚 say in few years something happens and your wife is deported, then what? At best you鈥檒l wait 10 years to have a shot at bringing her back into the states.
What are you going to tell your children, if you have any, when mommy has to go away? Can you afford to travel back and forth between the US and what ever country your fianc茅e is from with your kids in tow?
Or worst yet, you go to jail for harboring and illegal alien, then your children would lose both their mom and dad. So while mom is being deported and you鈥檙e in jail, your kids get a nice trip to foster care.
And all it鈥檒l take is ONE person checking her background, maybe for a job, maybe because she get into a car accident, or any other number of things that could cause someone to check her background.
Call a lawyer and find out what you need to do to bring her in the country legally or you could spend the rest of your life looking over your shoulder wondering if tomorrow your wife might get deported.
My gut feeling is you are going to marry her anyway. You KNOW she's an illegal criminal alien, yet you are trying to marry her any way possible.
If you are smart, you will follow the advice of the people above and think about this before you jump into what could be the biggest mistake of your life.
Make her legal first before you marry her. If she's deported after you are married...then what??
She may have to wait 10 years before being able to reapply for admission to the country.
you are aiding and abetting a criminal and can go to jail. you need to read some of the stories on here of how people thought they were in a good marriage with an illegal and got screwed over, i know she would never do that, yea right!!! report and deport.
In some states, the court requests for SS card and US government issued ID. Check with the court clerk.
Don't listen to anything that those negative haters have to say.People that cant answer you questions shouldn't post anything, hence why its called YAHOO ANSWERS not YAHOO GIVE ME YOUR STUPID OPINION. Anyhow, my husband and I were married In Arkansas and they request any kind of ID, even a fishing license will do. we got married at little bell chapel. And as far as him not being legal once you get married he can be legal very easily get a Good lawyer it will not be easy if he has been deported in the past or if he has any kind of background with drugs alcohol or violence. If he does reconsider marriage.
No there should not be any problems, all you need is sum type of id to get ur marriage license! You're free to marry whoever, even if they're undocumented!
Congrats!!! :o))
Don't listen to Kat M as you can see peole on this site are negative and hateful!! If you're in love go for it!!!
oh %26amp; i was reading others comments saying there is no way to make her legal...that's a lie. Once you are married get a lawyer %26amp; get all the paperwork needed for her to be a permanent resident, its going to cost you but its worth it. The 10 year ban is not true most leave the country for only a few months and are allowed back in. So good luck to ya!
What is the argument for continuing to disallow legal marriage to adult gay couples?
';Religous'; beliefs aside (ie. God doesn't agree, the bible says, etc) , how is this justified? Keep in mind that hetero couples have the ability to legally marry regardless of their child producing/rearing plans.
For further clarification: a spiritual union (ie. the commitment ceremony) and legal marriage ( submitting a marriage certificate to the courts, automatically obtaining property and tax benefits, etc) are 2 seperate events. I'm asking about the legal marriage.What is the argument for continuing to disallow legal marriage to adult gay couples?
In the UK we have recently started to accept civil partnerships, which I hope is the first step towards a better gay marriage law. The difficulty is that a lot of pople think that ';marriage'; can only be between a man and a woman and a lot of people think that gay people don't deserve the same human rights as straight people, I hope that these views fall out of favour because there is no real difference and surely two people in a happy, commited relationship are better off than two single people that are living alone and miserable!What is the argument for continuing to disallow legal marriage to adult gay couples?
I could see fraud being a bigger concern than anything: two people who are not in love or otherwise, getting married because they are roommates and using that status to file jointly in taxes and get a better deduction or Earned Income Credit when they don't want to claim a standard deduction... but male-female unions have the same problem.
Legally, I have little problem with Gay Marriage, but not so much the gay part as I have a problem with Marriage in general. I think the legal rules of marriage for gay and straight unions should be adjusted to prevent divorces and help reduce the legal bottleneck it creates for courts and judges.
Perhaps making a 4 year application process where marriage benefits are slowly granted over the four years and when a license is granted at the end of the four years a couple can be finally married and granted the financial benefits. That way, hasteful marriages aren't done and people don't separate so often: if you can't make it waiting for four years, you shouldn't share your life with someone in the first place.
Simple as ';you can't mix business with pleasure';
Marriage evolved as an institution between men and women. The gay advocate groups are trying to give the same benefits to a very small minority who have no biological reason for needing it.
Why should 3%-5% of the population be allowed to override existing law?
Most states have civil union laws that more give rights to same sex partners.
If by 'gay' you mean homosexual rather than happy, which I assume by the rest of your question it's a very simple answer. Just look at the definition of marriage. In fact, let's look at just part of the legal definition: MARRIAGE - A contract made in due form of law, by which a free man and a free woman reciprocally engage to live with each other during their joint lives, in the union which ought io exist between husband and wife. By the terms freeman and freewoman in this definition are meant, not only that they are free and not slaves, but also that they are clear of all bars to a lawful marriage. (See http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/m087.htm for a great deal more on this definition)
But of note is MAN and WOMAN. If the couple is the same sex, it is not, by definition, a marriage.
Why not let queer's marry? What's the harm? Let's also let people marry their pets. Why not let a woman marry her Minature Dachshund? What's the harm? How about adults and children? Can't see nothing wrong with that, can you? A guy can marry a sheep. No big deal to me. How about a father and his daughter? Hey, she really loves her Daddy 'cause he's sooo good to her. Look at Woody Allen. Not his real daughter, but that's merely a technicality. Would I get married? Not on your life. If I did, I'd lose half of everything I have the moment I uttered those fateful words that haunt my worst nightmares: ';I do';. Like a death sentence. Let the gays and the zoophiles and the pedaphiles have it. It's not for me.
I have a lot of gay friends, and I'm really torn on this issue. On one hand, I think they deserve the legal protections marriage can provide, but on the other hand, where do we draw the line? It's idiots like the woman who ';married'; a dolphin that endangers gay marriage. No, really - some woman married a dolphin. Check out this link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10694972
THAT is the type of thing that makes people not want to change the existing marriage laws.
So what if her ';marriage'; isn't binding? She still did it, and that's what a lot of people who are against gay marriage worry about. How can you make gay marriage legal but not polygamy? Why shouldn't polygamists have rights, too?
First of all, the plumbing doesnt fit. You can't put two winkies together and two cracks together. It just dont work. A winkie was designed for a crack.
The fact that it is disturbing and unnatural is enough for me.
For further clarification: a spiritual union (ie. the commitment ceremony) and legal marriage ( submitting a marriage certificate to the courts, automatically obtaining property and tax benefits, etc) are 2 seperate events. I'm asking about the legal marriage.What is the argument for continuing to disallow legal marriage to adult gay couples?
In the UK we have recently started to accept civil partnerships, which I hope is the first step towards a better gay marriage law. The difficulty is that a lot of pople think that ';marriage'; can only be between a man and a woman and a lot of people think that gay people don't deserve the same human rights as straight people, I hope that these views fall out of favour because there is no real difference and surely two people in a happy, commited relationship are better off than two single people that are living alone and miserable!What is the argument for continuing to disallow legal marriage to adult gay couples?
I could see fraud being a bigger concern than anything: two people who are not in love or otherwise, getting married because they are roommates and using that status to file jointly in taxes and get a better deduction or Earned Income Credit when they don't want to claim a standard deduction... but male-female unions have the same problem.
Legally, I have little problem with Gay Marriage, but not so much the gay part as I have a problem with Marriage in general. I think the legal rules of marriage for gay and straight unions should be adjusted to prevent divorces and help reduce the legal bottleneck it creates for courts and judges.
Perhaps making a 4 year application process where marriage benefits are slowly granted over the four years and when a license is granted at the end of the four years a couple can be finally married and granted the financial benefits. That way, hasteful marriages aren't done and people don't separate so often: if you can't make it waiting for four years, you shouldn't share your life with someone in the first place.
Simple as ';you can't mix business with pleasure';
Marriage evolved as an institution between men and women. The gay advocate groups are trying to give the same benefits to a very small minority who have no biological reason for needing it.
Why should 3%-5% of the population be allowed to override existing law?
Most states have civil union laws that more give rights to same sex partners.
If by 'gay' you mean homosexual rather than happy, which I assume by the rest of your question it's a very simple answer. Just look at the definition of marriage. In fact, let's look at just part of the legal definition: MARRIAGE - A contract made in due form of law, by which a free man and a free woman reciprocally engage to live with each other during their joint lives, in the union which ought io exist between husband and wife. By the terms freeman and freewoman in this definition are meant, not only that they are free and not slaves, but also that they are clear of all bars to a lawful marriage. (See http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/m087.htm for a great deal more on this definition)
But of note is MAN and WOMAN. If the couple is the same sex, it is not, by definition, a marriage.
Why not let queer's marry? What's the harm? Let's also let people marry their pets. Why not let a woman marry her Minature Dachshund? What's the harm? How about adults and children? Can't see nothing wrong with that, can you? A guy can marry a sheep. No big deal to me. How about a father and his daughter? Hey, she really loves her Daddy 'cause he's sooo good to her. Look at Woody Allen. Not his real daughter, but that's merely a technicality. Would I get married? Not on your life. If I did, I'd lose half of everything I have the moment I uttered those fateful words that haunt my worst nightmares: ';I do';. Like a death sentence. Let the gays and the zoophiles and the pedaphiles have it. It's not for me.
I have a lot of gay friends, and I'm really torn on this issue. On one hand, I think they deserve the legal protections marriage can provide, but on the other hand, where do we draw the line? It's idiots like the woman who ';married'; a dolphin that endangers gay marriage. No, really - some woman married a dolphin. Check out this link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10694972
THAT is the type of thing that makes people not want to change the existing marriage laws.
So what if her ';marriage'; isn't binding? She still did it, and that's what a lot of people who are against gay marriage worry about. How can you make gay marriage legal but not polygamy? Why shouldn't polygamists have rights, too?
First of all, the plumbing doesnt fit. You can't put two winkies together and two cracks together. It just dont work. A winkie was designed for a crack.
The fact that it is disturbing and unnatural is enough for me.
Is a marriage in Taiwan between an English man and South African woman recognised by the UK immigration agency?
it sure is. if its done according to local legal rules. it doesnt matter where you get married, once you did, it is valid everywhere.Is a marriage in Taiwan between an English man and South African woman recognised by the UK immigration agency?
It should be as long as it was a CIVIL marriage. Place of marriage should not matter.
It should be as long as it was a CIVIL marriage. Place of marriage should not matter.
What is the best field of work to get into if I have been a stay at home mom for most of my 7 year marriage?!?
I am a high school grad, and have 2 years of junior college where I was studying to be a graphic artist. I can speak, read and write spanish, as well as do light office work (data entry, typing, fax, copying) I also worked as a security officer for a couple years. I have 5 small kids and limited income for daycare too.What is the best field of work to get into if I have been a stay at home mom for most of my 7 year marriage?!?
Compared with other jobs, online work is best work-at-home moms. But beware of scams!
Scams and Phishing sites abound in the Internet. I've been their victim sometime. In a couple of cases, though the company is legit, I found the marketing/compensation systems unreliable and/or the product impossible to sell. Yes, I do lost some money by shooting blindly for online opportunities. You can be their prey too if you can't get reliable advise from person who have experienced being cheated.
From my experience, I recommend you to look for:
1. Financially-solid online company who has not less than 5-years of productive and honest business. They must have a proven (automated, if possible) compensation plan that pays, provides superb support via dedicated (not outsourced) forum, a satisfied community of members, and openly-posted company information.
2. A marketable, high-demand product that can be sold worldwide and in realtime. A product that can be supported aftersales. Not those that can only give you income from ad-placing, spamming, online research, surveys that will take much of your precious time and/or are impossible to sell/accomplish.
3. The company has in place a simple, fully automated yet rejection-free marketing system. From mass-mailed invitations, tracking, automated billing, after-sales support to Swiss-clock precision of commision payout .
4. A business that anyone worldwide can do. Even average people with novice computer knowledge, or are those not really business-inclined can have the opportunity to succeed too.
5. Compensation plan that provides an ever increasing residual income that is diredtly proportional with your desire to help others succeed also in life.
Sounds difficult? Yes. And it cost me money to find those that pays. I may give you a list here. But there is one company that not only provides above but exceeds all expectations - - -
Global Domains International, Inc.
http://www.freedom.ws
AccessCode: CYBALGUA
See the 7-minute video presentation, read the company info and the latest of the many testimonials that are found here:
http://website.ws/newtestimonials/index.鈥?/a>
Beware of online scams. Join GDI - Your Income for Life!
Remember:
';You can have everything you want in life if you will just help enough other people get what they want.';What is the best field of work to get into if I have been a stay at home mom for most of my 7 year marriage?!?
The best is that you get to advertise with this company as this is for people that are serious and who don鈥檛 want to be misled as we have tried many things and have found a company that has been around for 21 Years and pays you to advertise for them. My wife and I just started and are doing well. It is not an MLM company and no selling, no deliveries or stocking product. My wife鈥檚 aunt has been working with this Company (Melaleuca) for a little over 3 years and home schools 3 kids and makes $9,000 a month. It is a 500 Inc company and the CEO is on the U.S. Chamber of commerce board. I can arrange a web cast with my wife鈥檚 aunt for you and you can decide by yourself and WE WILL help you be successful. It is an honest Win Win.
If you want to see a web cast (presentation) from your home let me know and I will arrange it as that truly is the way to see all about Melaleuca. Have you heard of it. We have just gotten started with my wife's aunts help as it is a team effort and it is fun. Just a quick F.Y.I. 8 out of 10 people that see the web cast join the company and 95% of the people that join re-order product each and every month. Let me know when you are ready and we will set up the web cast.
e-mail: cleanandsafehome@yahoo.com
Thanks,
Rich %26amp; Teresa
Check out what I do!
www.liasophia.com/jewelrymom
Try something part-time to begin with. That way you don't have too much ';mommy guilt';. Also, with the graphic artist classes, you could do some work out of your home. Big plus because you don't have the day care worries. If you haven't finished your college career, the go back to school. With 5 kids, you should qualify for financial aid that you don't have to pay back. Even if you choose not to go back for the same thing. You could also do some converting English to Spanish, or vice-versa, for Dr offices, or other office settings where that could be an issue. And again you could start this from home. The companies you do stuff for would not even have to know, where you are, you could come to them. Simply make up a flyer or brochure on the computer. There are several books at the library (free) you can borrow about starting a business from home, and tons of info on the internet. Just don't buy into all those ';sealing envelopes'; scams. Good Luck :)
i don't think there are easy money for no hard work. perhaps you can setup a website and to earn money through google adsense.
besides, here is a specialized webpage containing 10 methods making money online and doing small business online.
http://www.adcenter.net.cn/make-money-on鈥?/a>
maybe that will help you or give you some bright idea.
Best Wishes %26amp;%26amp; Good Luck!
With a computer at home and internet connection,you can start earning from home,without any investment. You should choose your work at home job according to your skills and time available.
The simplest work at home job is answering phone calls for companies like WorkathomeAgent, Alpine Access, Liveops. You will need a quiet enviroment at home without any disturbance. To apply you will have to complete an online application form on the companies website . A list of companies with websites is available at
http://tinyurl.com/ze4lg
check out this site! its easy and free! good luck!
http://www.treasuretrooper.com/127384
I just went back to work after being home for 10 years. I found a night job. No mommy guilt! I'm gone while they sleep, I get up and spend time with them after school (ours started already), and am gone while they sleep. Luckily my husband doesn't work anymore (disability from work), so it's kind of switched for us.
Have you ever thought about working from home? I work for a great home based business and love it! After awhile, it has allowed me to be the stay at home mom I've always wanted to be. You are more than welcome to visit my website and check out the company and product with no pressure to join! While you are there, feel free to sign up for the free drawing, you just might win. If you have questions after that, feel free to email me with them and I will get back to you. Have a great day!
http://www.amyscandles.scent-team.com
Hummmmm~
Why don't you start your own day care? Or try direct sales where you do an in home party plan like Mary Kay, Avon, Party Lite, Pampered Chef, Sentsy, Passion Parties, Stampin Up, Scrap Booking...
If your husband is home in the evening, you could do a couple of parties a week ( they usually only take a couple of hours) Check into some of your options. With some of the party plans, you get paid the night of your party and don't have to wait for a check from the company.
I work outside of the home part time for sanity purposes...( 2 kids and husband!! ) And do Passion Parties on the side. You just have to find something that interests you.
You may want to take some medical billing classes and work from home
Compared with other jobs, online work is best work-at-home moms. But beware of scams!
Scams and Phishing sites abound in the Internet. I've been their victim sometime. In a couple of cases, though the company is legit, I found the marketing/compensation systems unreliable and/or the product impossible to sell. Yes, I do lost some money by shooting blindly for online opportunities. You can be their prey too if you can't get reliable advise from person who have experienced being cheated.
From my experience, I recommend you to look for:
1. Financially-solid online company who has not less than 5-years of productive and honest business. They must have a proven (automated, if possible) compensation plan that pays, provides superb support via dedicated (not outsourced) forum, a satisfied community of members, and openly-posted company information.
2. A marketable, high-demand product that can be sold worldwide and in realtime. A product that can be supported aftersales. Not those that can only give you income from ad-placing, spamming, online research, surveys that will take much of your precious time and/or are impossible to sell/accomplish.
3. The company has in place a simple, fully automated yet rejection-free marketing system. From mass-mailed invitations, tracking, automated billing, after-sales support to Swiss-clock precision of commision payout .
4. A business that anyone worldwide can do. Even average people with novice computer knowledge, or are those not really business-inclined can have the opportunity to succeed too.
5. Compensation plan that provides an ever increasing residual income that is diredtly proportional with your desire to help others succeed also in life.
Sounds difficult? Yes. And it cost me money to find those that pays. I may give you a list here. But there is one company that not only provides above but exceeds all expectations - - -
Global Domains International, Inc.
http://www.freedom.ws
AccessCode: CYBALGUA
See the 7-minute video presentation, read the company info and the latest of the many testimonials that are found here:
http://website.ws/newtestimonials/index.鈥?/a>
Beware of online scams. Join GDI - Your Income for Life!
Remember:
';You can have everything you want in life if you will just help enough other people get what they want.';What is the best field of work to get into if I have been a stay at home mom for most of my 7 year marriage?!?
The best is that you get to advertise with this company as this is for people that are serious and who don鈥檛 want to be misled as we have tried many things and have found a company that has been around for 21 Years and pays you to advertise for them. My wife and I just started and are doing well. It is not an MLM company and no selling, no deliveries or stocking product. My wife鈥檚 aunt has been working with this Company (Melaleuca) for a little over 3 years and home schools 3 kids and makes $9,000 a month. It is a 500 Inc company and the CEO is on the U.S. Chamber of commerce board. I can arrange a web cast with my wife鈥檚 aunt for you and you can decide by yourself and WE WILL help you be successful. It is an honest Win Win.
If you want to see a web cast (presentation) from your home let me know and I will arrange it as that truly is the way to see all about Melaleuca. Have you heard of it. We have just gotten started with my wife's aunts help as it is a team effort and it is fun. Just a quick F.Y.I. 8 out of 10 people that see the web cast join the company and 95% of the people that join re-order product each and every month. Let me know when you are ready and we will set up the web cast.
e-mail: cleanandsafehome@yahoo.com
Thanks,
Rich %26amp; Teresa
Check out what I do!
www.liasophia.com/jewelrymom
Try something part-time to begin with. That way you don't have too much ';mommy guilt';. Also, with the graphic artist classes, you could do some work out of your home. Big plus because you don't have the day care worries. If you haven't finished your college career, the go back to school. With 5 kids, you should qualify for financial aid that you don't have to pay back. Even if you choose not to go back for the same thing. You could also do some converting English to Spanish, or vice-versa, for Dr offices, or other office settings where that could be an issue. And again you could start this from home. The companies you do stuff for would not even have to know, where you are, you could come to them. Simply make up a flyer or brochure on the computer. There are several books at the library (free) you can borrow about starting a business from home, and tons of info on the internet. Just don't buy into all those ';sealing envelopes'; scams. Good Luck :)
i don't think there are easy money for no hard work. perhaps you can setup a website and to earn money through google adsense.
besides, here is a specialized webpage containing 10 methods making money online and doing small business online.
http://www.adcenter.net.cn/make-money-on鈥?/a>
maybe that will help you or give you some bright idea.
Best Wishes %26amp;%26amp; Good Luck!
With a computer at home and internet connection,you can start earning from home,without any investment. You should choose your work at home job according to your skills and time available.
The simplest work at home job is answering phone calls for companies like WorkathomeAgent, Alpine Access, Liveops. You will need a quiet enviroment at home without any disturbance. To apply you will have to complete an online application form on the companies website . A list of companies with websites is available at
http://tinyurl.com/ze4lg
check out this site! its easy and free! good luck!
http://www.treasuretrooper.com/127384
I just went back to work after being home for 10 years. I found a night job. No mommy guilt! I'm gone while they sleep, I get up and spend time with them after school (ours started already), and am gone while they sleep. Luckily my husband doesn't work anymore (disability from work), so it's kind of switched for us.
Have you ever thought about working from home? I work for a great home based business and love it! After awhile, it has allowed me to be the stay at home mom I've always wanted to be. You are more than welcome to visit my website and check out the company and product with no pressure to join! While you are there, feel free to sign up for the free drawing, you just might win. If you have questions after that, feel free to email me with them and I will get back to you. Have a great day!
http://www.amyscandles.scent-team.com
Hummmmm~
Why don't you start your own day care? Or try direct sales where you do an in home party plan like Mary Kay, Avon, Party Lite, Pampered Chef, Sentsy, Passion Parties, Stampin Up, Scrap Booking...
If your husband is home in the evening, you could do a couple of parties a week ( they usually only take a couple of hours) Check into some of your options. With some of the party plans, you get paid the night of your party and don't have to wait for a check from the company.
I work outside of the home part time for sanity purposes...( 2 kids and husband!! ) And do Passion Parties on the side. You just have to find something that interests you.
You may want to take some medical billing classes and work from home
Why is marriage the farthest things from people's minds these days?
I read question after question from men and women who live together, have kids together, and go the trials and tribulations of life together. Yet at no time do they ever even bring up the option of marriage. Why? Why is it that somebody is good enough to sleep with, live with, have kids with, and be with for 4-5 years, but marriage is completely out of the question?Why is marriage the farthest things from people's minds these days?
Because no one wants to make a commitment to share their life with someone. It means that they would have to have the mind set that they would work to stay together and stick it out through think or thin. People don't have the morals that where instilled in older people. Most people are selfish and can only think about what is best for them not as a family. When kids are brought in to this world it is usually a happy event but when things start to get hairy and difficult then one or both of the parents go separate ways and don't think one bit about the kids. This has been going on for quite some time and that is why the world is falling into the hands of Satan and not turning toward God.Why is marriage the farthest things from people's minds these days?
I don't know -- maybe it's because people don't want commitment these days. I suppose it's easier to live with someone and if the relationship comes to a close, it's easier to pack up and just leave instead of going through all the hassle of divorce court.
While i'm talking about it - people who live together don't usually stay together forever. There are some exceptions, but more of them break up than people get divorces.
Perhaps because things go sour in a relationship and it's alot easier for people to just split when that happens and some people rather not deal with the whole divorce and paper work stuff.
I also think that women have a lot to do with this because
men can get out of woman now what they couldn't get back then when they had to be married before any intimacy.
I'm sure are many other reasons why....
I however am 21 years old and happily married.
It's cheaper to break-up than divorce, and a huge % of marriages in the US end that way...not to mention marriage doesn't guarantee anything other than some legal rights that you don't have as the partner of someone you aren't married to.
It's simply more acceptable nowadays for couples to cohabit outside of marriage so many choose to do that...nothing wrong with it at all. For some, marriage just isn't an important issue.
Mainly, maybe it could be that nearly 50 per cent of marriages fail. Most people are not willing to go the distance. You might say, well it's just a piece of paper, it is more than that, it is a commitment. This Society we live in today is filled with negativity, and the idea of, why try. That's in all parts of life, people would rather see someone fail than work hard and succeed, Just my opinion.
Marriage is great for some people, but not necessary for others. Couples living together and raising kids together can be just as committed and happy (sometimes more so) than married couples. Honestly, the only differences are tax breaks and joint health insurance.
Yeah, I don't understand why they are scared of the little piece of paper to make it official. If things go south after already living together X amount of years, it is still going to get messy married or not.
I just got married last week and have no kids with my husband. I Love him and we think about having kids in the future if our marriage goes well.
Well I feel marriage means great comittment and people dont want that. Or some dont believ in a piece of paper.
I however do
Why get married when a majority end in divorce?
I don't know. Actually marriage is the closest thing to my mind next to school and getting a better job.
Because the COWS are giving away the MILK for freakin FREE!!
And it is as simple and as complicated as that.
because it has lost it's importance in society
don't want comittment
its just a piece of paper. we dont like contracts or obligatory things, we maintain our freedom and independencelip gloss
Because no one wants to make a commitment to share their life with someone. It means that they would have to have the mind set that they would work to stay together and stick it out through think or thin. People don't have the morals that where instilled in older people. Most people are selfish and can only think about what is best for them not as a family. When kids are brought in to this world it is usually a happy event but when things start to get hairy and difficult then one or both of the parents go separate ways and don't think one bit about the kids. This has been going on for quite some time and that is why the world is falling into the hands of Satan and not turning toward God.Why is marriage the farthest things from people's minds these days?
I don't know -- maybe it's because people don't want commitment these days. I suppose it's easier to live with someone and if the relationship comes to a close, it's easier to pack up and just leave instead of going through all the hassle of divorce court.
While i'm talking about it - people who live together don't usually stay together forever. There are some exceptions, but more of them break up than people get divorces.
Perhaps because things go sour in a relationship and it's alot easier for people to just split when that happens and some people rather not deal with the whole divorce and paper work stuff.
I also think that women have a lot to do with this because
men can get out of woman now what they couldn't get back then when they had to be married before any intimacy.
I'm sure are many other reasons why....
I however am 21 years old and happily married.
It's cheaper to break-up than divorce, and a huge % of marriages in the US end that way...not to mention marriage doesn't guarantee anything other than some legal rights that you don't have as the partner of someone you aren't married to.
It's simply more acceptable nowadays for couples to cohabit outside of marriage so many choose to do that...nothing wrong with it at all. For some, marriage just isn't an important issue.
Mainly, maybe it could be that nearly 50 per cent of marriages fail. Most people are not willing to go the distance. You might say, well it's just a piece of paper, it is more than that, it is a commitment. This Society we live in today is filled with negativity, and the idea of, why try. That's in all parts of life, people would rather see someone fail than work hard and succeed, Just my opinion.
Marriage is great for some people, but not necessary for others. Couples living together and raising kids together can be just as committed and happy (sometimes more so) than married couples. Honestly, the only differences are tax breaks and joint health insurance.
Yeah, I don't understand why they are scared of the little piece of paper to make it official. If things go south after already living together X amount of years, it is still going to get messy married or not.
I just got married last week and have no kids with my husband. I Love him and we think about having kids in the future if our marriage goes well.
Well I feel marriage means great comittment and people dont want that. Or some dont believ in a piece of paper.
I however do
Why get married when a majority end in divorce?
I don't know. Actually marriage is the closest thing to my mind next to school and getting a better job.
Because the COWS are giving away the MILK for freakin FREE!!
And it is as simple and as complicated as that.
because it has lost it's importance in society
don't want comittment
its just a piece of paper. we dont like contracts or obligatory things, we maintain our freedom and independence
If gays are allowed to experience the misery of marriage-wouldnt that make homosexuality less appealing?
so isnt the moralist lobby missing the point?If gays are allowed to experience the misery of marriage-wouldnt that make homosexuality less appealing?
That'll teach 'em LOL Let them see how miserable the rest of us areIf gays are allowed to experience the misery of marriage-wouldnt that make homosexuality less appealing?
Apparently you haven't read up on the subject of homosexuality. It is not a choice as people would like to think. I, for example, have never found women to be attractive in a sexual way.
So, imho, I would not find homosexuality less appealing if I was 'miserable' in a marriage.
I don't believe anyone can choose to be a homosexual. It just happens to some people. Marriage should be open to everyone, regardless of orientation. How could two loving homosexuals degrade anyone's heterosexual marriage? It's the old addage ';I don't like it, so you can't do it';. Biggoted bas*ards.
Actually the gay people I know think marriage is insane - they don't see anything about it good at all, but they still want to have the right to do it if they want.
Misery loves company, so I'm as surprised as you that the government doesn't allow it. It doesn't matter to me--if they want to marry, I say let them eat wedding cake! :-)
Experiencing the misery of marriage has not deterred the appeal of sex between a man and a woman, so why would it make any difference is same gender sex. DUH
Moron.
The U.S. Census Bureau keeps tabs on the growth. When it exceeds the limitations...they become expendable.
Read what I just said to yourself again silently.
oh,brother, just another line to use for gay marrieages
billy rebel, that's not what he asked
Oh my.
That'll teach 'em LOL Let them see how miserable the rest of us areIf gays are allowed to experience the misery of marriage-wouldnt that make homosexuality less appealing?
Apparently you haven't read up on the subject of homosexuality. It is not a choice as people would like to think. I, for example, have never found women to be attractive in a sexual way.
So, imho, I would not find homosexuality less appealing if I was 'miserable' in a marriage.
I don't believe anyone can choose to be a homosexual. It just happens to some people. Marriage should be open to everyone, regardless of orientation. How could two loving homosexuals degrade anyone's heterosexual marriage? It's the old addage ';I don't like it, so you can't do it';. Biggoted bas*ards.
Actually the gay people I know think marriage is insane - they don't see anything about it good at all, but they still want to have the right to do it if they want.
Misery loves company, so I'm as surprised as you that the government doesn't allow it. It doesn't matter to me--if they want to marry, I say let them eat wedding cake! :-)
Experiencing the misery of marriage has not deterred the appeal of sex between a man and a woman, so why would it make any difference is same gender sex. DUH
Moron.
The U.S. Census Bureau keeps tabs on the growth. When it exceeds the limitations...they become expendable.
Read what I just said to yourself again silently.
oh,brother, just another line to use for gay marrieages
billy rebel, that's not what he asked
Oh my.
Was there non-religious or religious resistance to gay marriage before the AIDS epidemic of the 1980s?
Just curious. My mother of 55 says there was not, but I'm curious what others remember.
Take me for a walk down memory lane..Was there non-religious or religious resistance to gay marriage before the AIDS epidemic of the 1980s?
Yes, during the fight for the Equal Rights Amendment (do you know that women are not actually mentioned in the Constitution?), it was said that it would bring about same sex marriage. Well, no ERA and we still fight over same-sex marriage. That was in the late 70s, BTW.Was there non-religious or religious resistance to gay marriage before the AIDS epidemic of the 1980s?
There was huge resistance! Not just to gay marriage, but to simple, civil gay rights, as well. It was against the law for gays to have sex of any kind. It was against the law for two men to even dance together. They couldn't be teachers or preachers. Anita Bryant campaigned against gays in Florida on religious grounds in the 70's, but her campaign lost. She lost her recording contract and commerical endoresments as a result of her bigotry.
There wasn't any resistance, because nobody even thought of such a thing.
I had many gay friends in the 1980s who were politically active in gay issues, and THEY never even considered gay marriage a possibility - so there was no way that heterosexual people would think about it either.
This only became a major issue over the last 5 years or so when a gay couple decided that after they found out they couldn't get the same health and insurance benefits as a straight couple, and it was easier to adopt a child as a straight couple. Then all of a sudden they wanted to be married. Before that it didn't matter.
No, but not because there wasn't an AIDS concern; it's just because the subject really never came up. No one could even fathom it as being a possibility.
Yes. There was. There is more support for it now than there used to be.
Take me for a walk down memory lane..Was there non-religious or religious resistance to gay marriage before the AIDS epidemic of the 1980s?
Yes, during the fight for the Equal Rights Amendment (do you know that women are not actually mentioned in the Constitution?), it was said that it would bring about same sex marriage. Well, no ERA and we still fight over same-sex marriage. That was in the late 70s, BTW.Was there non-religious or religious resistance to gay marriage before the AIDS epidemic of the 1980s?
There was huge resistance! Not just to gay marriage, but to simple, civil gay rights, as well. It was against the law for gays to have sex of any kind. It was against the law for two men to even dance together. They couldn't be teachers or preachers. Anita Bryant campaigned against gays in Florida on religious grounds in the 70's, but her campaign lost. She lost her recording contract and commerical endoresments as a result of her bigotry.
There wasn't any resistance, because nobody even thought of such a thing.
I had many gay friends in the 1980s who were politically active in gay issues, and THEY never even considered gay marriage a possibility - so there was no way that heterosexual people would think about it either.
This only became a major issue over the last 5 years or so when a gay couple decided that after they found out they couldn't get the same health and insurance benefits as a straight couple, and it was easier to adopt a child as a straight couple. Then all of a sudden they wanted to be married. Before that it didn't matter.
No, but not because there wasn't an AIDS concern; it's just because the subject really never came up. No one could even fathom it as being a possibility.
Yes. There was. There is more support for it now than there used to be.
What does marriage mean to people these days??
Does marriage signify anything these days?? Do you think married people are more committed to their partners than unmarried people??
What is everybody's views on my questions?What does marriage mean to people these days??
Starred your question for you, very thought-provoking
Been married (yes, same person) almost thirty years %26amp; just dropped off youngest at his college yesterday, so we are entering a new phase as empty-nesters, feels very weird so far!
We are still in love and we do a better-than-average job making times for ourselves as a couple and trying to keep the passion alive, etc. I hate to make that sound like work, but there is a certain amount of effort involved and you have to nurture the relationship through the years.
I am fond of telling people that if you thing marriage is a 50-50 propositon you are probably headed for trouble. The only way to think is 100% from both parties at all times, if you both are willing to give everything you have then it will work through the tough times as well as the good times.
Marriage to me means different things at different points, new love, planning wedding, thinking about a family: all of those are relatively short-lived things when you see the whole picture. A lot of it for me is wrapped up in raising a family and working together to be the best parents that you can, but I also realize that that is just dependent on whether you have kids or not.
Keep in mind that marriage is a legal entity in most countries and gives the partners certain rights, like job pension, inheritance, and so forth. A lot of people don't think about those things too much when young, but they are the reason that marriage exists in a civilized society, to give rules and procedures to things and minimize family-vs-family conflicts.
Are married people more committed than unmarried? Not necessarily. A good ';famous couple'; example is Spencer Tracy and Katharine Hepburn. They never married (he remained married to his wife, the mother of his children), yet their close loving relationship is famous to this day in Hollywood. She couldn't go to the funeral when he died.
Great question! I will be interested to read what others say.What does marriage mean to people these days??
Means more to women than men. For some reason women feel they are successful if they are married and secure. They tend to hang around with other married people. They become a wife, a Mrs and then a mother and lose their own identity.
I don't think they are more committed, it's just a lot harder to walk away financially. The thought of what they would lose keeps them around a bit longer than they would have if they had been single.
I'm sure everyone believes the vows they take and means them at the time. But people change, circumstances change, feelings change. All things that are the last things on your mind when you are walking down that aisle.
I was married once. It lasted 5 years. I don't regret it but I won't ever marry again. I just don't see the point, rather live with someone, less hassle.
I personally believe those vows are unconditional but I think for the most part, they mean very little to most people nowadays. The commitment is not there anymore. People are going into marriage with the idea that it is temporary. They don't try to work through the hard stuff.
I dont think married people are any more commited, but it is a day when you stand infront of all the people you know and love and tell them that you are going to spend the rest of your life with the person you are marrying. Its just a formal thing peopledo because they want to and ebacuse it ti right for them. Some people are not married but they are just as commited, marriage is just not for them.
Yes people do tend to marry nowadays for money or just very soon for the hell of it not because they are actually in love. This is terrible, everyone should only marry when they are truly in love with that special person and they have been together a long time. Marriage is meant to signify love and staying with that person for the rest of their lives-this being a very good and happy thing!
I think marriage confirms a relationship.
However alot of people do not take the vows seriously these days.
I still think it means a lot, to have someone promise in front of whatever god they belive in that they will love you forever. When I get married I want to know that it is forever, that I can wake up next to someone I love for the rest of my life..... Oh look there's fairies in here in my dream world. :-)
marry for love not cash and your partner should have the same goals in life. most of all you should end up best Friends
marriage is the same to me as it was 100 yrs ago...i believe in the vows...and till death do us part!!!
In Scotland it just means a party with one more guest than a funeral. I went to a wedding last week and there was not one fight. Not much fun there then.
I think marriage doesn't mean as much to the majority as it used to, being unmarried but living with someone/having children has become a lot more socially acceptable %26amp; for whatever reason people are choosing not to marry.
As to the level of commitment I suppose people who are in a long term relationship but unmarried will say they are no less committed to their partners than married couples - but personally I disagree.
I've been bought up that marriage is sacred %26amp; adultry is 100% wrong. It is something so special shared between two people %26amp; it will probably mean something different to each person asked.
To me marriage is for life %26amp; it's a way of declaring your love in front of your family %26amp; friends %26amp; showing that you are as committed (as much as you can be) to the person you are marrying for the rest of your life.
To me it also creates an unspoken security - you've entered into the institution of marriage %26amp; made sacred vows to one another, if there's no intention of keeping these vows, people should not marry.
It's an old fashioned view, but I also think it helps to create an air of stability for children as Mummy %26amp; Daddy are married, they sharethe same set of 'rules' (the vows) %26amp; a surname, I know not always these days but if/when I marry I will take my husbands name so there are no misunderstandings/awkward moments amongst the outside world.
nowadays, you can happily live with someone and have all the perks of being legally married. marriage isn't what it used to be.
marrying someone doesn't prove you love her MORE than not marrying her.it just mean you want her to have your name (in some cases only)
better be with someone who loves you but not married than married with someone who doesn't love you.
marriage is not a certificate of commitment or love.
I've watched people treat marriage like it was nothing. When I got married, it wasn't about the day, it was about the man I was marrying, he is my best friend and the father of my child, I love and adore him tons. When I took my vows, they were the same I felt when I was dating him. I believe in monogomy. I just feel that married people in the world today, treat marriage like it was when my grandparents married. It is a union between man and woman, who love each other and are commited. I wear my wedding rings proud and I'm proud to be married to the man I am.
For me it doesnt really make any difference. All depends on the couple, so if they both believe in making a ceremony then why not. Those who believe in living together without taking the vowels infront of everybody is also their choice and I see no difference. I am living with someone since 3yrs and I see those who are married at churchst and stuff and they are not happy as we are
Sadly, it seems that marriage vows don't mean much to a lot of people. I have heard so many stories from friends about how their marriages are not working out, one or the other is cheating (or thinking about it!) etc. etc. Its really depressing, especially because these are ';young'; couples (married 10 years or less.) I feel like, when I got married, that's it. I'm in it for the long haul. Obviously I don't know what the future holds, but I don't plan on messing up my marriage by doing something I shouldn't, and my husband feels the same way.
More bills
not a lot
i think people rush into it too quickly %26amp; just think if it dosent work they can just get divorced, i dont think people generally believe in the vows, it should be taken more seriously
Marriage means different things to different people. Some take it very seriously, while others marry someone they are not compatible with or w/o thinking it out. I've known both married and unmarried committed couples who have been devoted to each other for decades, as well as married and unmarried couples who are anything but devoted to each other.
If you want numbers and statistics on these issues, you could check to see if there are any studies on it. It doesn't really matter what marriage means to ';people'; these days, only what it means to YOU and your partner, if you've got one.
Happily married, and my husband and I take our vows seriously. We are totally committed to each other. When we took the vows in the presence of our family and God, we did not just say the words we took them to Heart. God is at the head and the center of our marriage. We are committed until death do us apart. I hope this answers your question. Un married people don't have a committment, when one gets tired of the other they can just leave, in a marriage you have to remember FOR BETTER OR WORSE, and try to make things better, instead of taking the easy way out and just leaving.
Marriage means an awful lot to me. Not only my own marriage
(11yrs) but the institution of marriage. I got married in a church not because I'm religious,but because I believe in the vows you exchange. I think that If you use these promises that you make to each other as guidelines for how you live your married life together that you can't go far wrong.
Too many people get married without careful consideration.
I got married 6 weeks ago after being with my man for 4 years. I feel now that he will be with me until I die, that is the commitment I have made and that is what it means to me. Hope that helps
What is everybody's views on my questions?What does marriage mean to people these days??
Starred your question for you, very thought-provoking
Been married (yes, same person) almost thirty years %26amp; just dropped off youngest at his college yesterday, so we are entering a new phase as empty-nesters, feels very weird so far!
We are still in love and we do a better-than-average job making times for ourselves as a couple and trying to keep the passion alive, etc. I hate to make that sound like work, but there is a certain amount of effort involved and you have to nurture the relationship through the years.
I am fond of telling people that if you thing marriage is a 50-50 propositon you are probably headed for trouble. The only way to think is 100% from both parties at all times, if you both are willing to give everything you have then it will work through the tough times as well as the good times.
Marriage to me means different things at different points, new love, planning wedding, thinking about a family: all of those are relatively short-lived things when you see the whole picture. A lot of it for me is wrapped up in raising a family and working together to be the best parents that you can, but I also realize that that is just dependent on whether you have kids or not.
Keep in mind that marriage is a legal entity in most countries and gives the partners certain rights, like job pension, inheritance, and so forth. A lot of people don't think about those things too much when young, but they are the reason that marriage exists in a civilized society, to give rules and procedures to things and minimize family-vs-family conflicts.
Are married people more committed than unmarried? Not necessarily. A good ';famous couple'; example is Spencer Tracy and Katharine Hepburn. They never married (he remained married to his wife, the mother of his children), yet their close loving relationship is famous to this day in Hollywood. She couldn't go to the funeral when he died.
Great question! I will be interested to read what others say.What does marriage mean to people these days??
Means more to women than men. For some reason women feel they are successful if they are married and secure. They tend to hang around with other married people. They become a wife, a Mrs and then a mother and lose their own identity.
I don't think they are more committed, it's just a lot harder to walk away financially. The thought of what they would lose keeps them around a bit longer than they would have if they had been single.
I'm sure everyone believes the vows they take and means them at the time. But people change, circumstances change, feelings change. All things that are the last things on your mind when you are walking down that aisle.
I was married once. It lasted 5 years. I don't regret it but I won't ever marry again. I just don't see the point, rather live with someone, less hassle.
I personally believe those vows are unconditional but I think for the most part, they mean very little to most people nowadays. The commitment is not there anymore. People are going into marriage with the idea that it is temporary. They don't try to work through the hard stuff.
I dont think married people are any more commited, but it is a day when you stand infront of all the people you know and love and tell them that you are going to spend the rest of your life with the person you are marrying. Its just a formal thing peopledo because they want to and ebacuse it ti right for them. Some people are not married but they are just as commited, marriage is just not for them.
Yes people do tend to marry nowadays for money or just very soon for the hell of it not because they are actually in love. This is terrible, everyone should only marry when they are truly in love with that special person and they have been together a long time. Marriage is meant to signify love and staying with that person for the rest of their lives-this being a very good and happy thing!
I think marriage confirms a relationship.
However alot of people do not take the vows seriously these days.
I still think it means a lot, to have someone promise in front of whatever god they belive in that they will love you forever. When I get married I want to know that it is forever, that I can wake up next to someone I love for the rest of my life..... Oh look there's fairies in here in my dream world. :-)
marry for love not cash and your partner should have the same goals in life. most of all you should end up best Friends
marriage is the same to me as it was 100 yrs ago...i believe in the vows...and till death do us part!!!
In Scotland it just means a party with one more guest than a funeral. I went to a wedding last week and there was not one fight. Not much fun there then.
I think marriage doesn't mean as much to the majority as it used to, being unmarried but living with someone/having children has become a lot more socially acceptable %26amp; for whatever reason people are choosing not to marry.
As to the level of commitment I suppose people who are in a long term relationship but unmarried will say they are no less committed to their partners than married couples - but personally I disagree.
I've been bought up that marriage is sacred %26amp; adultry is 100% wrong. It is something so special shared between two people %26amp; it will probably mean something different to each person asked.
To me marriage is for life %26amp; it's a way of declaring your love in front of your family %26amp; friends %26amp; showing that you are as committed (as much as you can be) to the person you are marrying for the rest of your life.
To me it also creates an unspoken security - you've entered into the institution of marriage %26amp; made sacred vows to one another, if there's no intention of keeping these vows, people should not marry.
It's an old fashioned view, but I also think it helps to create an air of stability for children as Mummy %26amp; Daddy are married, they sharethe same set of 'rules' (the vows) %26amp; a surname, I know not always these days but if/when I marry I will take my husbands name so there are no misunderstandings/awkward moments amongst the outside world.
nowadays, you can happily live with someone and have all the perks of being legally married. marriage isn't what it used to be.
marrying someone doesn't prove you love her MORE than not marrying her.it just mean you want her to have your name (in some cases only)
better be with someone who loves you but not married than married with someone who doesn't love you.
marriage is not a certificate of commitment or love.
I've watched people treat marriage like it was nothing. When I got married, it wasn't about the day, it was about the man I was marrying, he is my best friend and the father of my child, I love and adore him tons. When I took my vows, they were the same I felt when I was dating him. I believe in monogomy. I just feel that married people in the world today, treat marriage like it was when my grandparents married. It is a union between man and woman, who love each other and are commited. I wear my wedding rings proud and I'm proud to be married to the man I am.
For me it doesnt really make any difference. All depends on the couple, so if they both believe in making a ceremony then why not. Those who believe in living together without taking the vowels infront of everybody is also their choice and I see no difference. I am living with someone since 3yrs and I see those who are married at churchst and stuff and they are not happy as we are
Sadly, it seems that marriage vows don't mean much to a lot of people. I have heard so many stories from friends about how their marriages are not working out, one or the other is cheating (or thinking about it!) etc. etc. Its really depressing, especially because these are ';young'; couples (married 10 years or less.) I feel like, when I got married, that's it. I'm in it for the long haul. Obviously I don't know what the future holds, but I don't plan on messing up my marriage by doing something I shouldn't, and my husband feels the same way.
More bills
not a lot
i think people rush into it too quickly %26amp; just think if it dosent work they can just get divorced, i dont think people generally believe in the vows, it should be taken more seriously
Marriage means different things to different people. Some take it very seriously, while others marry someone they are not compatible with or w/o thinking it out. I've known both married and unmarried committed couples who have been devoted to each other for decades, as well as married and unmarried couples who are anything but devoted to each other.
If you want numbers and statistics on these issues, you could check to see if there are any studies on it. It doesn't really matter what marriage means to ';people'; these days, only what it means to YOU and your partner, if you've got one.
Happily married, and my husband and I take our vows seriously. We are totally committed to each other. When we took the vows in the presence of our family and God, we did not just say the words we took them to Heart. God is at the head and the center of our marriage. We are committed until death do us apart. I hope this answers your question. Un married people don't have a committment, when one gets tired of the other they can just leave, in a marriage you have to remember FOR BETTER OR WORSE, and try to make things better, instead of taking the easy way out and just leaving.
Marriage means an awful lot to me. Not only my own marriage
(11yrs) but the institution of marriage. I got married in a church not because I'm religious,but because I believe in the vows you exchange. I think that If you use these promises that you make to each other as guidelines for how you live your married life together that you can't go far wrong.
Too many people get married without careful consideration.
I got married 6 weeks ago after being with my man for 4 years. I feel now that he will be with me until I die, that is the commitment I have made and that is what it means to me. Hope that helps
History of marriage when did it all start?
the morden marriage today, where did it originate from?History of marriage when did it all start?
I've heard that Marriage was not sanctioned by our government until the 1800'sHistory of marriage when did it all start?
Adam and Eve.... apple best man and serpent conducted
the service........(not a lot changed really .)
Modern marriage today?
Church marriage with Christianity.
Civil marriage from the very first people who paired for life either with a promise or a non-language grunt of ascent in Neanderthal times.
locates the same-sex marriage of the 1990s in the history of marriage, tracing the institution from the Old Testament Hebrews through medieval Catholic theologians to 19th century Utopians. As she read widely on the subject, Graff found an ever-changing institution that has always been a battleground, with same-sex marriage only the most recent skirmish in the battle. She discovered that in asking, “What is marriage for?” she was actually asking, “What does it mean to be fully human.”
The World spoke with Graff about her book at Radcliffe College’s Schlesinger Library in Cambridge, Massachusetts, where she is currently an affiliated scholar.
World: How did your book on marriage come to get written?
EJG: I was writing very basic articles on the subject, including one in Ms. At that time, there was almost no one writing about it. Then a number of gay neoconservative men started writing about marriage as if it were suddenly going to make all gay men settle down and confine their sex lives to one husband and start wearing suits and get jobs as lawyers. They didn’t take into account that men are very different from one another and that marriage certainly has not domesticated promiscuous heterosexual men. They also didn’t take into account that many women, including lesbian feminists, have heated debates about whether the institution of marriage has been good or bad for women.
And by contrast with these writers, there were neoconservative heterosexual men who kept saying same-sex marriage would end civilization. I thought, I have to keep writing! I wrote a series of articles, and the more I wrote, the more I realized I had to know more in order both to answer my questions and enter the debate.
World: Yet, you didn’t write a conventional polemic on the subject. Instead, you put it in a larger context and come at it from various angles.
EJG: I knew same-sex marriage hadn’t even been open for discussion before the 1990s. So why was it open for discussion now? To answer that is to answer the larger question “What is marriage for?” What I came to believe is that marriage and Western society changed pretty dramatically in the mid-19th century.
I think it was in the sixties but I think more traditional values are practiced in the Middle East
Spiritual marriage is a concept that has a long history in Catholicism, and is also known as a ';Josephite marriage'; after the marriage between Joseph and the virgin Mary.[citation needed] A feature of Catholic spiritual marriage, or Josephite marriage, is that the agreement to abstain from sex should be a free mutual decision, rather than resulting from impotence or the views of one party.
In senses beyond spiritual marriage, chastity is a key concept of Church doctrine that demands celibacy of priests, monks, nuns and certain other officials in the Church. The doctrine established a ';spiritual marriage'; of church officials to their church; in order to better serve God, one had to disavow the demands and temptations of traditional marriage. This rule was enforced by Henry II, Holy Roman Emperor, whose marriage to Cunigunde of Luxemburg was also a very famous spiritual marriage.
The ultimate emulation of this piety by the laypersons of the church was for a married couple to practice a ';spiritual marriage'; as well. This practice is thought to be most common in medieval times. [citation needed] At times in Catholic history, a spiritual marriage was considered to be a more devout expression of love than a traditional marriage.[citation needed]
Examples of spiritual marriage in history include Edward the Confessor, who married but refused to consummate his marriage for religious reasons, resulting in the lack of clear heir. [citation needed] Such was the case with the wife of Boleslaus V of Poland. [citation needed]
The Venerable Lois and Ziele Martin professed to enter a spiritual marriage, but consummated a year later - apparently under divine inspiration to start a family. 1. Of their nine children the five who survived to adulthood all became nuns, including Saint Thérèse de Lisieux.
Conversely, spiritual marriages may also be entered later in life, with the renunciation of sexual relations after raising a family to fully dedicate oneself to God. In October 2001 John Paul II beatified the first married couple ever, Luigi and Maria Beltrame Quattrocchi, who lived 1880-1951 and 1880-1965 respectively. Although this couple bore four children, later in life they lived separately and committed to a Josephite marriage in order to better serve God. 1 2.
At times, spiritual marriage assumed a particularly scandalous form, in which a priest or monk would take a nun or laywoman as a wife, but claim to remain celibate, and claim that they slept in the same bed but did not engage in sexual relations as a sign of their own willpower. Most, however, doubted that they were in fact as strong in chastity as they claimed, and such claims were judged heretical.
In the first book of the Bible. Genesis. The first married couple was Adam and Eve.
The biginning of time when God created Adam and Eve. They were the first ones to be married. Check out the book of Genesis in the Bible. You will find some great facts and info in there. Good luck, I hope that my answer helped you.
I've heard that Marriage was not sanctioned by our government until the 1800'sHistory of marriage when did it all start?
Adam and Eve.... apple best man and serpent conducted
the service........(not a lot changed really .)
Modern marriage today?
Church marriage with Christianity.
Civil marriage from the very first people who paired for life either with a promise or a non-language grunt of ascent in Neanderthal times.
locates the same-sex marriage of the 1990s in the history of marriage, tracing the institution from the Old Testament Hebrews through medieval Catholic theologians to 19th century Utopians. As she read widely on the subject, Graff found an ever-changing institution that has always been a battleground, with same-sex marriage only the most recent skirmish in the battle. She discovered that in asking, “What is marriage for?” she was actually asking, “What does it mean to be fully human.”
The World spoke with Graff about her book at Radcliffe College’s Schlesinger Library in Cambridge, Massachusetts, where she is currently an affiliated scholar.
World: How did your book on marriage come to get written?
EJG: I was writing very basic articles on the subject, including one in Ms. At that time, there was almost no one writing about it. Then a number of gay neoconservative men started writing about marriage as if it were suddenly going to make all gay men settle down and confine their sex lives to one husband and start wearing suits and get jobs as lawyers. They didn’t take into account that men are very different from one another and that marriage certainly has not domesticated promiscuous heterosexual men. They also didn’t take into account that many women, including lesbian feminists, have heated debates about whether the institution of marriage has been good or bad for women.
And by contrast with these writers, there were neoconservative heterosexual men who kept saying same-sex marriage would end civilization. I thought, I have to keep writing! I wrote a series of articles, and the more I wrote, the more I realized I had to know more in order both to answer my questions and enter the debate.
World: Yet, you didn’t write a conventional polemic on the subject. Instead, you put it in a larger context and come at it from various angles.
EJG: I knew same-sex marriage hadn’t even been open for discussion before the 1990s. So why was it open for discussion now? To answer that is to answer the larger question “What is marriage for?” What I came to believe is that marriage and Western society changed pretty dramatically in the mid-19th century.
I think it was in the sixties but I think more traditional values are practiced in the Middle East
Spiritual marriage is a concept that has a long history in Catholicism, and is also known as a ';Josephite marriage'; after the marriage between Joseph and the virgin Mary.[citation needed] A feature of Catholic spiritual marriage, or Josephite marriage, is that the agreement to abstain from sex should be a free mutual decision, rather than resulting from impotence or the views of one party.
In senses beyond spiritual marriage, chastity is a key concept of Church doctrine that demands celibacy of priests, monks, nuns and certain other officials in the Church. The doctrine established a ';spiritual marriage'; of church officials to their church; in order to better serve God, one had to disavow the demands and temptations of traditional marriage. This rule was enforced by Henry II, Holy Roman Emperor, whose marriage to Cunigunde of Luxemburg was also a very famous spiritual marriage.
The ultimate emulation of this piety by the laypersons of the church was for a married couple to practice a ';spiritual marriage'; as well. This practice is thought to be most common in medieval times. [citation needed] At times in Catholic history, a spiritual marriage was considered to be a more devout expression of love than a traditional marriage.[citation needed]
Examples of spiritual marriage in history include Edward the Confessor, who married but refused to consummate his marriage for religious reasons, resulting in the lack of clear heir. [citation needed] Such was the case with the wife of Boleslaus V of Poland. [citation needed]
The Venerable Lois and Ziele Martin professed to enter a spiritual marriage, but consummated a year later - apparently under divine inspiration to start a family. 1. Of their nine children the five who survived to adulthood all became nuns, including Saint Thérèse de Lisieux.
Conversely, spiritual marriages may also be entered later in life, with the renunciation of sexual relations after raising a family to fully dedicate oneself to God. In October 2001 John Paul II beatified the first married couple ever, Luigi and Maria Beltrame Quattrocchi, who lived 1880-1951 and 1880-1965 respectively. Although this couple bore four children, later in life they lived separately and committed to a Josephite marriage in order to better serve God. 1 2.
At times, spiritual marriage assumed a particularly scandalous form, in which a priest or monk would take a nun or laywoman as a wife, but claim to remain celibate, and claim that they slept in the same bed but did not engage in sexual relations as a sign of their own willpower. Most, however, doubted that they were in fact as strong in chastity as they claimed, and such claims were judged heretical.
In the first book of the Bible. Genesis. The first married couple was Adam and Eve.
The biginning of time when God created Adam and Eve. They were the first ones to be married. Check out the book of Genesis in the Bible. You will find some great facts and info in there. Good luck, I hope that my answer helped you.
Are married straight couples who are afraid of gay marriage afraid their spouses will run off?
Honestly, if you people just loved your spouses and gave them what they needed, I'm sure they would not be running off to get gay married...
I mean, how else could gay marriage be a threat to straight marriage?Are married straight couples who are afraid of gay marriage afraid their spouses will run off?
If they want to 'save' straight marriage, BAN DIVORCE!Are married straight couples who are afraid of gay marriage afraid their spouses will run off?
LoLz...
The California Supreme Court stated:
“the exclusion of same-sex couples from the designation of marriage clearly is not necessary in order to afford full protection to all of the rights and benefits that currently are enjoyed by married opposite-sex couples; permitting same-sex couples access to the designation of marriage will not deprive opposite-sex couples of any rights and will not alter the legal framework of the institution of marriage, because same-sex couples who choose to marry will be subject to the same obligations and duties that currently are imposed on married opposite-sex couples.”
The most common causes of divorce in heterosexual marriage, according to family law experts are poor communication, financial problems, lack of commitment, dramatic changes in priorities, and infidelity. Marriage equality will not affect any of these conditions in heterosexual marriages. Within my own church community, thousands of families have been formed and then destroyed because of counsel that homosexual people should marry members of the opposite sex. When their sexual orientation is not changed by marriage, both spouses and any children suffer.
there is no logical reason to deprive people of equal rights and options, the arguments are all bigotry
marriage used to be for same-sex couples until the romans banned it in 342AD thanks to the christians who redefined marriage
the majority voting on minority was doomed to failure it appears.
the bigots only wants things to be like they approve of
Well, we're married and he's straight and I'm bi.
I can't see that gay marriage is any threat at all to mine. The only threat to our marriage is us both working full time -- I hardly see him anymore.
p.s. -- we're getting more snow soon! : )
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Afraid of gay marriage. I don't think so. This is none of my buisness. Now as far as 34 years with my husband....We are very(happy) ';gay'; . You know when gay meant happy.
Did you get that striaght? lol
I have never chosen to be straight. Thus, I woould have never thought someone would say sexual preference is a choice. If someone thinks being gay is a choice, they must struggle with it.
I think they must be afraid that the gay couples will show them up in longevity. Next they will be targeting divorces .. a huge threat to straight marriages.
Good question. As a straight woman married to a straight man, I see no reason why our gay friends should not have the same right to marry as we did. Is their love any less valid? Of course not.
Lol!
Homophobes.
You go, grrl!
How in the name of all that's sweet and holy do you have time on your hands to think of all this meaningless crap?
I can't speak for every ';straight'; person just as you can't speak for every gay person.
Most straight people are not objecting to ';gay marriage'; because they are afraid their spouse will run off with a gay. That is ridiculous thinking!
Since most objection comes from religious beliefs the objection is based on the fear that over time our marriages will have less meaning since straights marry in the presence of God and with His blessing. While other than some eastern religions maybe, God has forbade same gender sexual unification in all three books of the middle east. Torrah, Bible and Quran., so for this to be ignored is like saying too bad God we will anyway and the meaning of marriage (to become one flesh and multiply) Christian meaning makes the marriage contract less holy.
For me, kafirs can do as they want as long as I don't have to be involved. After all a marriage contract is really a contract with the legal system of the country and the only thing that makes it sacred is when Allah blesses it, so I don't care if marriage rights are instated. It doesn't effect my life.
Homosexuals make up a tiny percentage of the US population, but they are making a lot of noise. That is making them seem larger than what they really are.
This gay marriage thing is just a small part of their agenda. They were not content with California. They want it in ALL fifty states.
I think you need to study the issue before you make statements like this.
There are millions of people opposed to gay marriage. I think you would be hard pressed to find hardly any of them who are afraid their spouses will run off.
Look into it some more.
Get real. Homosexuality is a disgusting perversion of what God intended with honor and only in the marriage bed between a man and his wife.
It's more a threat to society at large really...destroying one of its fundamental building blocks.
That is so lame and stupid. Get over your own gayness. Its your problem not ours.
Made you feel brave asking that huh?
I mean, how else could gay marriage be a threat to straight marriage?Are married straight couples who are afraid of gay marriage afraid their spouses will run off?
If they want to 'save' straight marriage, BAN DIVORCE!Are married straight couples who are afraid of gay marriage afraid their spouses will run off?
LoLz...
The California Supreme Court stated:
“the exclusion of same-sex couples from the designation of marriage clearly is not necessary in order to afford full protection to all of the rights and benefits that currently are enjoyed by married opposite-sex couples; permitting same-sex couples access to the designation of marriage will not deprive opposite-sex couples of any rights and will not alter the legal framework of the institution of marriage, because same-sex couples who choose to marry will be subject to the same obligations and duties that currently are imposed on married opposite-sex couples.”
The most common causes of divorce in heterosexual marriage, according to family law experts are poor communication, financial problems, lack of commitment, dramatic changes in priorities, and infidelity. Marriage equality will not affect any of these conditions in heterosexual marriages. Within my own church community, thousands of families have been formed and then destroyed because of counsel that homosexual people should marry members of the opposite sex. When their sexual orientation is not changed by marriage, both spouses and any children suffer.
there is no logical reason to deprive people of equal rights and options, the arguments are all bigotry
marriage used to be for same-sex couples until the romans banned it in 342AD thanks to the christians who redefined marriage
the majority voting on minority was doomed to failure it appears.
the bigots only wants things to be like they approve of
Well, we're married and he's straight and I'm bi.
I can't see that gay marriage is any threat at all to mine. The only threat to our marriage is us both working full time -- I hardly see him anymore.
p.s. -- we're getting more snow soon! : )
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Afraid of gay marriage. I don't think so. This is none of my buisness. Now as far as 34 years with my husband....We are very(happy) ';gay'; . You know when gay meant happy.
Did you get that striaght? lol
I have never chosen to be straight. Thus, I woould have never thought someone would say sexual preference is a choice. If someone thinks being gay is a choice, they must struggle with it.
I think they must be afraid that the gay couples will show them up in longevity. Next they will be targeting divorces .. a huge threat to straight marriages.
Good question. As a straight woman married to a straight man, I see no reason why our gay friends should not have the same right to marry as we did. Is their love any less valid? Of course not.
Lol!
Homophobes.
You go, grrl!
How in the name of all that's sweet and holy do you have time on your hands to think of all this meaningless crap?
I can't speak for every ';straight'; person just as you can't speak for every gay person.
Most straight people are not objecting to ';gay marriage'; because they are afraid their spouse will run off with a gay. That is ridiculous thinking!
Since most objection comes from religious beliefs the objection is based on the fear that over time our marriages will have less meaning since straights marry in the presence of God and with His blessing. While other than some eastern religions maybe, God has forbade same gender sexual unification in all three books of the middle east. Torrah, Bible and Quran., so for this to be ignored is like saying too bad God we will anyway and the meaning of marriage (to become one flesh and multiply) Christian meaning makes the marriage contract less holy.
For me, kafirs can do as they want as long as I don't have to be involved. After all a marriage contract is really a contract with the legal system of the country and the only thing that makes it sacred is when Allah blesses it, so I don't care if marriage rights are instated. It doesn't effect my life.
Homosexuals make up a tiny percentage of the US population, but they are making a lot of noise. That is making them seem larger than what they really are.
This gay marriage thing is just a small part of their agenda. They were not content with California. They want it in ALL fifty states.
I think you need to study the issue before you make statements like this.
There are millions of people opposed to gay marriage. I think you would be hard pressed to find hardly any of them who are afraid their spouses will run off.
Look into it some more.
Get real. Homosexuality is a disgusting perversion of what God intended with honor and only in the marriage bed between a man and his wife.
It's more a threat to society at large really...destroying one of its fundamental building blocks.
That is so lame and stupid. Get over your own gayness. Its your problem not ours.
Made you feel brave asking that huh?
Can this marriage be saved? While my husband lays in bed keeping up with all 300 channels on TV and?
I am sitting on the couch looking for that next great Y!A question. How many of you wives would actually just get up put on those party shoes and leave the house without your ';stick in the mud'; next weekend and live it up a little more. This thought has crossed my mind more than once tonight.Can this marriage be saved? While my husband lays in bed keeping up with all 300 channels on TV and?
I am in the same situation. Mine just sits on his computer. The only reason why he bought me my computer was for me to stay busy so he can be lazy all damn day long.
I am always saying.. I'm going to Vegas and even call up girlfriend but I can't get a damn one of them to stop serving their husbands and wiping their husband butt for two seconds either and go with me.
I'm fed up with being a wife..I could be lazy all on my own without him!Can this marriage be saved? While my husband lays in bed keeping up with all 300 channels on TV and?
My husband is in the army...just got back from war working 8 days straight 22 hour days. He likes to be home...away from people...and just be able to relax. It is not uncommon for him to play W.O.W. or Call of Duty all day long and some times all night long. But he also makes time for me. Which is great because it gives us both a chance to have our alone time. Sometimes when I feel left out I watch him play his games and ask questions. My philisophy if you cant beat them...join them. If you cant join them...go down stairs and shut the power off for a few hours and act like the electricity went out. :P
So break out of your shell of boredom. Go shopping and get some great new clothes, make-up, and a hair-cut. Then go your own way next week. Men are so competitive that I bet he starts wondering what the heck you are doing on your nights away..... Then you can offer to take him along.
my husband has been married to TV for 43 yrs and they are very happy. I go and do what I want, but I have never cheated and will not. I always ask him if he will go too, he usually does, but if he does not I go without guilt. Good luck
I have thought about that more than once.
I have the same problem. My husband is so into video games and TV. He barely pays attention to me. If I did start hitting the clubs every weekend, I bet he would come around.
Go ahead and try it. Maybe if he sees how much fun you are having he'll get interested in getting up and going with you.
Hey sweetie, those tv shows must be really really exciting.
every couple needs time away from their significant other. go out and have fun with the girls. just make sure it ends at home with the hubby and you will be ok
I'll meet you at the club in 15 minutes.
I am in the same situation. Mine just sits on his computer. The only reason why he bought me my computer was for me to stay busy so he can be lazy all damn day long.
I am always saying.. I'm going to Vegas and even call up girlfriend but I can't get a damn one of them to stop serving their husbands and wiping their husband butt for two seconds either and go with me.
I'm fed up with being a wife..I could be lazy all on my own without him!Can this marriage be saved? While my husband lays in bed keeping up with all 300 channels on TV and?
My husband is in the army...just got back from war working 8 days straight 22 hour days. He likes to be home...away from people...and just be able to relax. It is not uncommon for him to play W.O.W. or Call of Duty all day long and some times all night long. But he also makes time for me. Which is great because it gives us both a chance to have our alone time. Sometimes when I feel left out I watch him play his games and ask questions. My philisophy if you cant beat them...join them. If you cant join them...go down stairs and shut the power off for a few hours and act like the electricity went out. :P
So break out of your shell of boredom. Go shopping and get some great new clothes, make-up, and a hair-cut. Then go your own way next week. Men are so competitive that I bet he starts wondering what the heck you are doing on your nights away..... Then you can offer to take him along.
my husband has been married to TV for 43 yrs and they are very happy. I go and do what I want, but I have never cheated and will not. I always ask him if he will go too, he usually does, but if he does not I go without guilt. Good luck
I have thought about that more than once.
I have the same problem. My husband is so into video games and TV. He barely pays attention to me. If I did start hitting the clubs every weekend, I bet he would come around.
Go ahead and try it. Maybe if he sees how much fun you are having he'll get interested in getting up and going with you.
Hey sweetie, those tv shows must be really really exciting.
every couple needs time away from their significant other. go out and have fun with the girls. just make sure it ends at home with the hubby and you will be ok
I'll meet you at the club in 15 minutes.
What are you doing to keep your weight in check, so that it does not affect your marriage?
I am busy with a little on-line survey. Please help.What are you doing to keep your weight in check, so that it does not affect your marriage?
She'll tell you what you need to do. It's your choice whether you want to please her or please yourself. Either way, you lose.What are you doing to keep your weight in check, so that it does not affect your marriage?
I did nothing.. course I am divorced but happier than I ever was married to a man that put a huge weight on looks.... it should not be about how you look... that is not the basis of a ';Good'; marriage..your spouse should love you for you not how you look
I try to keep up with her weight gain...but the pace at which she's gaining is impossible for me to keelp up with. I just can't eat any more.
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING..We have been married for 25 yrs and if he doesn't like the way I look then he is more then welcome to leave. We married for the person we are not how we look .
I don't eat sandwiches at night , How about you .? I eat when I am hungry Drink whenI am thirsty and do exercises
im blowing up like you thought i would, same number same hood, its all good
little debbies!!!!
My husband and I aren't jerks and we could care less about our weight.
Absolutely nothing. My man isn't a shallow prick. But thanks for asking!
She'll tell you what you need to do. It's your choice whether you want to please her or please yourself. Either way, you lose.What are you doing to keep your weight in check, so that it does not affect your marriage?
I did nothing.. course I am divorced but happier than I ever was married to a man that put a huge weight on looks.... it should not be about how you look... that is not the basis of a ';Good'; marriage..your spouse should love you for you not how you look
I try to keep up with her weight gain...but the pace at which she's gaining is impossible for me to keelp up with. I just can't eat any more.
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING..We have been married for 25 yrs and if he doesn't like the way I look then he is more then welcome to leave. We married for the person we are not how we look .
I don't eat sandwiches at night , How about you .? I eat when I am hungry Drink whenI am thirsty and do exercises
im blowing up like you thought i would, same number same hood, its all good
little debbies!!!!
My husband and I aren't jerks and we could care less about our weight.
Absolutely nothing. My man isn't a shallow prick. But thanks for asking!
Can a teenage relationship workout and end up in marriage?
what i mean is that say a boy and a girl who are 15 start to go out...could they end up marrying each other years later and be together forever without dumping each other to ';have fun'; with other people.Can a teenage relationship workout and end up in marriage?
Yes, Alot of the older generation like our parents %26amp; grandparents usually married the ones who they dated since or upon leaving school.
My mu and dad have been married 24 years and they got together at 16.
SO Yes its definantly possible, although i think lifestyes have changed , people like to enjoy there careers and not be tied down as early and meet new people all the time, wheras the older generation settled down and had babys marriage earlier.
It depends on the people and how they are influenced? see ive always been quite old fashioned due to way ive been broguth up etc , but some of my mates are all up for 'having fun' with different people and it kinda influences me to although id like to settle, i still feel i am missing out on the fun.
What will be will be, jst enjoy your relationshiop and dont worry weer it will end or go to :)Can a teenage relationship workout and end up in marriage?
Nowadays? I'm not trying to be negative, but it needs a miracle to happen. Because you're just in love you feel that way. Marriage is not only about love feelings, it's a huge responsibility, even some people in their 20s can't be reliable for that responsibility. And the longer relationship takes before marriage, the it could reach marriage, unless both sides can forgive and try to support the other party and really work things out. Good luck and do your best to reach your goal.
There are exceptions, but it's not likely. You will both change more than you can imagine in the coming years and, if you are close now, that change is more likely to pull you apart than it is to draw you closer together.
The exception: 2 friends of mine got married right after high school (I was the Best Man). Nobody thought that it would last. Each one took their turn working while the other went through university. She went to university first, so, with only high school education, he worked at a carwash: tough times indeed. They are now both computer programmers. Their 30th wedding anniversary was last summer.
Its possible but highly unlikely.. The start of a relationship is always the best. And in teenage years you think its the best thing ever and at the time you think it will be forever.
Believe me, 15 is young and lots of other people you meet will come along. I believe people that age should play the field and see whats out there before they get bogged down in a serious relationship.
It was pretty rare years ago as far as being a ';proper relationship'; goes. I worked with old people for a time and many who had got together when they were very young were playing away throughout their 20s, 30s and 40s! I would sooner have someone who had shed their wild oats before settling!
Seeing the change in attitudes today I should think that even less than these will work out as we do not have the same stigma regarding divorce.
However there are always exceptions............ but I would not hold your breath!
Maybe 1% I ever knew in my life. Usally they have sex and then break up and move on. Maybe have a relationship and then decide one of them that they really do not want to sommit forever. Just have fun do not get deep and do not have sex. Its because they leave after that or when a new girls come by. Or when your pregnat then they leave. So basically no!!!
i would say so
if you keep commited and stil love each other, why shouldnt you
met my bf at 13/14 and i was 14, im now 16 and hes 15, known each other for 2 and half years and been goin out 4 jst ova 1 year and a half...i no its not a long time but we stil love each other millions and we hope it does last, we arnt certain but tbh, the only way 2 no is 2 take it as it comes (:
DUR DA DUR! !!YESS!!
THEIR are many people *hhigh-schoolsweeties* end up all *i love you*
blah blah get married have a few kids grow old die ttogetherall that Jazz
BUT
Every case is different most high school relationship's end faster than an ice-cream cone!
and the ice-cream cone tastes way better, trust me!
(figure of speech)
ive been with my fella since i was 17, im now 26 and we have a son and one due in a few weeks. You can grow up together, some people will change some wont, it may work it may not but its worth a try of you think the person is worth it.
i met my girlfriend when she was 16 and i was 17 we are both still together and im 20 and she is 19. we plan on getting married and we love the hell out of each other. i am really lucky to have found ';the one'; so early in life. so long story short. YES it can happen : )
Its absolutely same here.............I also found my G.F when i was 15.
N its surely possible but only when u r truely best frnds of each other rather that a G.F and B.F...........Be trustworthy and sharing to him....
Its most important 2 make ur place in his heart.......
All the best !!!
Yes, it's quite possible, but it's pretty rare for young people. In order for that to be the case, it would have to be true love.
Depends on how mature they are, and how much genuine feeling they have for each other. my parents have been together since age 15.
Unlikely but it is possible. I highly doubt it would though - and even if it does end up in marriage, around 50% of marriages break up...
possible, i started going out with my husband when i was 14 and married at 25 and still together at 39.
yes there was a couple (now split) on my street who were together since they were 15 got married and have 2 children there around late 30's early 40's they split not so long ago
Yes i married my boyfriend met him at 17 married at 20 but divorced at 30
It is possible, I started dating my wife when I was 13 and we have been together ever since.
I will say maybe 1% will work out to marriage.
yes it is possible it has happened
Yeah its possible..My grandparents started dating when they were 14 been together ever since ..married and now in their 80's.
Yes, it happens. A lot :) It's wonderful
there is only a very small chance but it is possible.
:)
well it is possible but i wouldn't count on it. it's very rare for that to happen these days.
Yes it is completely possible. Both my aunt and my cousin got married to their first boyfriend.
Yes... it's possible...Why not?
i would say its about 50% it could and couldn't my sister is 16 and has been with her boyfriend since they were 14 so a long time and we all think they will so it could
hope this helped xxx
no it will never work
SORRY :(
My aunt has been with my uncle since she was 12, she is now 48years old.
SO yes it can
I started going out with my boyfriend at 15 and we have been together over 11 months which isn't exactly marriage, lol, but i am pregnant now and we want to get married later on.
Yes, Alot of the older generation like our parents %26amp; grandparents usually married the ones who they dated since or upon leaving school.
My mu and dad have been married 24 years and they got together at 16.
SO Yes its definantly possible, although i think lifestyes have changed , people like to enjoy there careers and not be tied down as early and meet new people all the time, wheras the older generation settled down and had babys marriage earlier.
It depends on the people and how they are influenced? see ive always been quite old fashioned due to way ive been broguth up etc , but some of my mates are all up for 'having fun' with different people and it kinda influences me to although id like to settle, i still feel i am missing out on the fun.
What will be will be, jst enjoy your relationshiop and dont worry weer it will end or go to :)Can a teenage relationship workout and end up in marriage?
Nowadays? I'm not trying to be negative, but it needs a miracle to happen. Because you're just in love you feel that way. Marriage is not only about love feelings, it's a huge responsibility, even some people in their 20s can't be reliable for that responsibility. And the longer relationship takes before marriage, the it could reach marriage, unless both sides can forgive and try to support the other party and really work things out. Good luck and do your best to reach your goal.
There are exceptions, but it's not likely. You will both change more than you can imagine in the coming years and, if you are close now, that change is more likely to pull you apart than it is to draw you closer together.
The exception: 2 friends of mine got married right after high school (I was the Best Man). Nobody thought that it would last. Each one took their turn working while the other went through university. She went to university first, so, with only high school education, he worked at a carwash: tough times indeed. They are now both computer programmers. Their 30th wedding anniversary was last summer.
Its possible but highly unlikely.. The start of a relationship is always the best. And in teenage years you think its the best thing ever and at the time you think it will be forever.
Believe me, 15 is young and lots of other people you meet will come along. I believe people that age should play the field and see whats out there before they get bogged down in a serious relationship.
It was pretty rare years ago as far as being a ';proper relationship'; goes. I worked with old people for a time and many who had got together when they were very young were playing away throughout their 20s, 30s and 40s! I would sooner have someone who had shed their wild oats before settling!
Seeing the change in attitudes today I should think that even less than these will work out as we do not have the same stigma regarding divorce.
However there are always exceptions............ but I would not hold your breath!
Maybe 1% I ever knew in my life. Usally they have sex and then break up and move on. Maybe have a relationship and then decide one of them that they really do not want to sommit forever. Just have fun do not get deep and do not have sex. Its because they leave after that or when a new girls come by. Or when your pregnat then they leave. So basically no!!!
i would say so
if you keep commited and stil love each other, why shouldnt you
met my bf at 13/14 and i was 14, im now 16 and hes 15, known each other for 2 and half years and been goin out 4 jst ova 1 year and a half...i no its not a long time but we stil love each other millions and we hope it does last, we arnt certain but tbh, the only way 2 no is 2 take it as it comes (:
DUR DA DUR! !!YESS!!
THEIR are many people *hhigh-schoolsweeties* end up all *i love you*
blah blah get married have a few kids grow old die ttogetherall that Jazz
BUT
Every case is different most high school relationship's end faster than an ice-cream cone!
and the ice-cream cone tastes way better, trust me!
(figure of speech)
ive been with my fella since i was 17, im now 26 and we have a son and one due in a few weeks. You can grow up together, some people will change some wont, it may work it may not but its worth a try of you think the person is worth it.
i met my girlfriend when she was 16 and i was 17 we are both still together and im 20 and she is 19. we plan on getting married and we love the hell out of each other. i am really lucky to have found ';the one'; so early in life. so long story short. YES it can happen : )
Its absolutely same here.............I also found my G.F when i was 15.
N its surely possible but only when u r truely best frnds of each other rather that a G.F and B.F...........Be trustworthy and sharing to him....
Its most important 2 make ur place in his heart.......
All the best !!!
Yes, it's quite possible, but it's pretty rare for young people. In order for that to be the case, it would have to be true love.
Depends on how mature they are, and how much genuine feeling they have for each other. my parents have been together since age 15.
Unlikely but it is possible. I highly doubt it would though - and even if it does end up in marriage, around 50% of marriages break up...
possible, i started going out with my husband when i was 14 and married at 25 and still together at 39.
yes there was a couple (now split) on my street who were together since they were 15 got married and have 2 children there around late 30's early 40's they split not so long ago
Yes i married my boyfriend met him at 17 married at 20 but divorced at 30
It is possible, I started dating my wife when I was 13 and we have been together ever since.
I will say maybe 1% will work out to marriage.
yes it is possible it has happened
Yeah its possible..My grandparents started dating when they were 14 been together ever since ..married and now in their 80's.
Yes, it happens. A lot :) It's wonderful
there is only a very small chance but it is possible.
:)
well it is possible but i wouldn't count on it. it's very rare for that to happen these days.
Yes it is completely possible. Both my aunt and my cousin got married to their first boyfriend.
Yes... it's possible...Why not?
i would say its about 50% it could and couldn't my sister is 16 and has been with her boyfriend since they were 14 so a long time and we all think they will so it could
hope this helped xxx
no it will never work
SORRY :(
My aunt has been with my uncle since she was 12, she is now 48years old.
SO yes it can
I started going out with my boyfriend at 15 and we have been together over 11 months which isn't exactly marriage, lol, but i am pregnant now and we want to get married later on.
Where can I read the actual bill for Gay Marriage in Maine?
I can't figure out where to find the bill, I've run out of places to look. I have a few questions about the wording of the bill and want to read it for myself.Where can I read the actual bill for Gay Marriage in Maine?
http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/bi鈥?/a>Where can I read the actual bill for Gay Marriage in Maine?
Try googling ';State of Maine Legislation';
I am starring this in hopes kwazywabbot sees this and answers...
he may know.
http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/bi鈥?/a>Where can I read the actual bill for Gay Marriage in Maine?
Try googling ';State of Maine Legislation';
I am starring this in hopes kwazywabbot sees this and answers...
he may know.
In the LDS church, is it bad for a boyfriend and girlfriend to move in together before marriage?
I'm thinking about moving out. But so is my boyfriend and we are together basically all day anyway, it wouldn't hurt to just move in together instead. Is it bad if i am LDS and move in with him?In the LDS church, is it bad for a boyfriend and girlfriend to move in together before marriage?
You're parents will probably not disown you, but they most likely will be disapointed. You should remember that we need to be chaste, and you should be married before you move in with a boy, thin about your family before you decide what you are going to do, think about your parents, and honour them, do your best not to hurt them, I bet they love you very muchIn the LDS church, is it bad for a boyfriend and girlfriend to move in together before marriage?
bible book of 1 Corinthians 6: 9 - 10: What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God鈥檚 kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God鈥檚 kingdom.
bible book of Galatians 5: 19 - 21: Now the works of the flesh are manifest, and they are fornication, uncleanness, loose conduct, 20聽idolatry, practice of spiritism, enmities, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, contentions, divisions, sects, 21聽envies, drunken bouts, revelries, and things like these. As to these things I am forewarning YOU, the same way as I did forewarn YOU, that those who practice such things will not inherit God鈥檚 kingdom.
It is best if you don't put yourself in a situation where you might be tempted to commit immorality. That kind of familiarity should be reserved for married couples. Skipping the steps of courtship is dangerous and foolish. You can't make things right by wishing them so. This kind of mistake is very hard to erase.
it's recommended that you should be married before you move in with your boyfriend, fiance.So that nothing happens and you end up doing something you shouldn't be doing like having sex and etc.
Yes, VERY bad.
To most religions, yes. And that is your limit.
Yes, I believe it is looked down upon
Yes, very much so.
They will disown you and never let you back. I kid not.
Of course!
Yes, it is not good ........only Protestants do such things
You're parents will probably not disown you, but they most likely will be disapointed. You should remember that we need to be chaste, and you should be married before you move in with a boy, thin about your family before you decide what you are going to do, think about your parents, and honour them, do your best not to hurt them, I bet they love you very muchIn the LDS church, is it bad for a boyfriend and girlfriend to move in together before marriage?
bible book of 1 Corinthians 6: 9 - 10: What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God鈥檚 kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God鈥檚 kingdom.
bible book of Galatians 5: 19 - 21: Now the works of the flesh are manifest, and they are fornication, uncleanness, loose conduct, 20聽idolatry, practice of spiritism, enmities, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, contentions, divisions, sects, 21聽envies, drunken bouts, revelries, and things like these. As to these things I am forewarning YOU, the same way as I did forewarn YOU, that those who practice such things will not inherit God鈥檚 kingdom.
It is best if you don't put yourself in a situation where you might be tempted to commit immorality. That kind of familiarity should be reserved for married couples. Skipping the steps of courtship is dangerous and foolish. You can't make things right by wishing them so. This kind of mistake is very hard to erase.
it's recommended that you should be married before you move in with your boyfriend, fiance.So that nothing happens and you end up doing something you shouldn't be doing like having sex and etc.
Yes, VERY bad.
To most religions, yes. And that is your limit.
Yes, I believe it is looked down upon
Yes, very much so.
They will disown you and never let you back. I kid not.
Of course!
Yes, it is not good ........only Protestants do such things
Is is okay to touch my girlfriends breast before marriage?
My girlfriend wants me to touch her breast. I dont know why but she gets upset when i say no cuz we're christians and we're not married yet.
So issit a sin to do so before marriage?Is is okay to touch my girlfriends breast before marriage?
No, it would only lead to something else. Wait until marriage.Is is okay to touch my girlfriends breast before marriage?
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Well, The Bible does mention sexual immorality which I believe includes what you are saying - anything sexual before marriage is a sin.....It seems like you're hesitant....somewhere you feel in your conscience it's wrong, so don't do anything that will make you feel guilty later, in this case you being sort of forced to do this....it looks like an act of Lust on her part, wait till you're married and then express your LOVE for one another, ever heard that expression True Love waits and even then, the way she wants you to touch her to make her feel good here and now or she gets angry is Lust, not Love, even if she does this in marriage because it still is lusting after the flesh.
Why would you? That is a first step that leads to something more.
I have usually found that if a person has to ask if something is a sin or not that they are looking for fire insurance instead of dong God's will.
I suggest that either you find a new girl friend that understands what a pure woman means or make sure you are not alone with her. Always have a strong Christian around to give support.
Given how lame you seem, I can't imagine why she'd want you to
Grow a pair!
Celibacy is a religious con trick that is really about ensuring the transferral of property. If you want to make love to your girlfriend so long as you're careful, there's no harm
Been there before. If you don't she may dump you.
A reason why she wants you to- for security %26amp; that you find her beautiful
It would be a sin BECAUSE you doubt whether it is right to do. Treat her as a sister until you tie the knot.
yes it is a sin - it is lusting after the flesh - it is lustful just to even think of doing it - your girlfriend is trying to seduce u and lead u into sex - break it off with her - she is not behaving like a christian - peace be with u
Well, I don't believe in anything sexual before marriage, but that's Just me. I guess it depends on if you are getting married then doesn't it? If you aren't comfortable with it, then don't do it.
If she wants you to do it, for heaven's sake, do it.
Hell, do whatever you want, as long as you take precautions.
God wants us to enjoy the pleasures he created on this earth and that includes each other. Adam and Eve weren't married. Sexuality is natural within us all and we shouldn't oppress it.
According to the old testament you can do far more than touch her breast. Just make her a concubine.
Squeeze them too... she will pretend it hurts... but she is secretly enjoying it!
It's a sin for a gay man to lead on a straight girl.
AND GOD SAID THOU SHALT NOT GET TO SECOND BASE BEFORE MARRIAGE!!!
Get your friend to do it for you.
Yes it is fine, but only with your knee.
they say no sex before marriage...
maybe it doesn't include breasts sex...
Touch her boobs! You should never have to be asked twice!
give me her number, Ill do more than touch them:)
Oh man. Put on your flame suit.
why don't you buy a sex doll, duhh!
if she says no, then it's not ok
Sex before marriage? -
Exo 22 Verse 16: And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife.
Verse 17: If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins.
Deut 20 Verse 7: And what man is there that hath betrothed a wife, and hath not taken her? let him go and return unto his house, lest he die in the battle, and another man take her.
1 Cor 7 Verse 36: But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: (but) let them marry.
Song 2 Verse 7: I charge you, o ye daughters of Jerusalem, by the roes, and by the hinds of the field, that ye stir not up, nor awake my love, till he please. (DO NOT WAKE UP YOUR SEX DRIVE WHEN YOU ARE YOUNG AND UNMARRIED. IF YOU DO YOU WILL SPEND MOST OF THE TIME THINKING WHERE YOU WILL GET IT TONIGHT. WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE MARRIED!!!)
Psa 73 Verse 21: Thus my heart was grieved, and I was pricked in my reins.
Verse 22: So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee. (JUMPING EVERYONE THAT MOVES.)
You made it this far, why not wait for the wedding night?
The issue is triggers...the more sexual triggers you turn on, the harder it is to turn them off.
Good luck.
I don't know if it's a sin but your setting up yourself for failure becoming that intimate with your girl friend before marriage. You two should not even be alone in a secluded place right now.
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So issit a sin to do so before marriage?Is is okay to touch my girlfriends breast before marriage?
No, it would only lead to something else. Wait until marriage.Is is okay to touch my girlfriends breast before marriage?
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Well, The Bible does mention sexual immorality which I believe includes what you are saying - anything sexual before marriage is a sin.....It seems like you're hesitant....somewhere you feel in your conscience it's wrong, so don't do anything that will make you feel guilty later, in this case you being sort of forced to do this....it looks like an act of Lust on her part, wait till you're married and then express your LOVE for one another, ever heard that expression True Love waits and even then, the way she wants you to touch her to make her feel good here and now or she gets angry is Lust, not Love, even if she does this in marriage because it still is lusting after the flesh.
Why would you? That is a first step that leads to something more.
I have usually found that if a person has to ask if something is a sin or not that they are looking for fire insurance instead of dong God's will.
I suggest that either you find a new girl friend that understands what a pure woman means or make sure you are not alone with her. Always have a strong Christian around to give support.
Given how lame you seem, I can't imagine why she'd want you to
Grow a pair!
Celibacy is a religious con trick that is really about ensuring the transferral of property. If you want to make love to your girlfriend so long as you're careful, there's no harm
Been there before. If you don't she may dump you.
A reason why she wants you to- for security %26amp; that you find her beautiful
It would be a sin BECAUSE you doubt whether it is right to do. Treat her as a sister until you tie the knot.
yes it is a sin - it is lusting after the flesh - it is lustful just to even think of doing it - your girlfriend is trying to seduce u and lead u into sex - break it off with her - she is not behaving like a christian - peace be with u
Well, I don't believe in anything sexual before marriage, but that's Just me. I guess it depends on if you are getting married then doesn't it? If you aren't comfortable with it, then don't do it.
If she wants you to do it, for heaven's sake, do it.
Hell, do whatever you want, as long as you take precautions.
God wants us to enjoy the pleasures he created on this earth and that includes each other. Adam and Eve weren't married. Sexuality is natural within us all and we shouldn't oppress it.
According to the old testament you can do far more than touch her breast. Just make her a concubine.
Squeeze them too... she will pretend it hurts... but she is secretly enjoying it!
It's a sin for a gay man to lead on a straight girl.
AND GOD SAID THOU SHALT NOT GET TO SECOND BASE BEFORE MARRIAGE!!!
Get your friend to do it for you.
Yes it is fine, but only with your knee.
they say no sex before marriage...
maybe it doesn't include breasts sex...
Touch her boobs! You should never have to be asked twice!
give me her number, Ill do more than touch them:)
Oh man. Put on your flame suit.
why don't you buy a sex doll, duhh!
if she says no, then it's not ok
Sex before marriage? -
Exo 22 Verse 16: And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife.
Verse 17: If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins.
Deut 20 Verse 7: And what man is there that hath betrothed a wife, and hath not taken her? let him go and return unto his house, lest he die in the battle, and another man take her.
1 Cor 7 Verse 36: But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: (but) let them marry.
Song 2 Verse 7: I charge you, o ye daughters of Jerusalem, by the roes, and by the hinds of the field, that ye stir not up, nor awake my love, till he please. (DO NOT WAKE UP YOUR SEX DRIVE WHEN YOU ARE YOUNG AND UNMARRIED. IF YOU DO YOU WILL SPEND MOST OF THE TIME THINKING WHERE YOU WILL GET IT TONIGHT. WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE MARRIED!!!)
Psa 73 Verse 21: Thus my heart was grieved, and I was pricked in my reins.
Verse 22: So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee. (JUMPING EVERYONE THAT MOVES.)
You made it this far, why not wait for the wedding night?
The issue is triggers...the more sexual triggers you turn on, the harder it is to turn them off.
Good luck.
I don't know if it's a sin but your setting up yourself for failure becoming that intimate with your girl friend before marriage. You two should not even be alone in a secluded place right now.
Yuk!
A friend of mine is stuck in an abusive marriage and has no place to go. Any suggestions?
It's a familiar situation with a twist. She is a stay at home mother with 2 children, one of whom has CP and requires special attention. It seems rather hopeless so far and her family does not have enough room in their houses to accommodate. Any suggestions would be appreciated.A friend of mine is stuck in an abusive marriage and has no place to go. Any suggestions?
There are shelters that would take her and her kids in, help her with the divorce and help her start a new life.A friend of mine is stuck in an abusive marriage and has no place to go. Any suggestions?
I agree. Since you obviously care enough to post this, then why don.t you take your responsibility even farther? YOU need to get resourceful and FIND a place for this mom and her kids. Contact the CP child's medical staff and see if they may have any ';strings'; to pull. Or at least give you a list of #'s of places that may be able to help her. How can this world be s0oo big and still have NO place to go? IMPOSSIBLE! There are lots of single mother agencies out there that have these lists of #'s too. These are issues THEY deal with everyday! Here in Phx, there are quite a few of apt complexes that were turned into shelters for families and single moms ONLY. The Salvation Army is KNOWN to re-place dis-placed moms. AND they also have this list of #'s available for YOU. Don't just ';drop'; this just because it is going to be a lot of work. Take it upon yourself and get the ball rolling. Keep in mind, that there ARE waiting lists and HOOPS to jump through....but in the long run, the BIG picture is your goal. Keep THAT big picture in the forefront of your mind and strive for betterment.
Here (Irving, TX) there is a Dom Viol Center (866/925-7233) that has transitional housing which is free for two years while the mom works and gets on her feet. She needs to go to Legal Aid for a free divorce and get the child on disability.
My daughter went to federally sponsored special ed at her local school from three on. I don't know if this child meets the criteria, but it's free.
Sorry, this stuff is long-term.
Has she contacted the local shelter? They will provide her services even if she isn't staying there and they know how to do everything.
This situation always makes me very sad. Something I just cant understand or accept however is that her family does not have room to accomodate her or her children. Abusive relationships result in emotional scarring that often can not be healed but even worse death. So many murders are committed by those who apparently love their victims. If this was someone in my family I would make room.
Cant she just stay with you? Family or friends?
Somone in an abusive relationship is made to feel isolated and made to feel as if they have no one to run to.
Try to make her remind her she does have a lot of other options.
She must call a women's shelter who will keep there whereabout anonymous.
Why aren't you having her and her children move in with you?
What about you, if you are her friend and all???
There are shelters that would take her and her kids in, help her with the divorce and help her start a new life.A friend of mine is stuck in an abusive marriage and has no place to go. Any suggestions?
I agree. Since you obviously care enough to post this, then why don.t you take your responsibility even farther? YOU need to get resourceful and FIND a place for this mom and her kids. Contact the CP child's medical staff and see if they may have any ';strings'; to pull. Or at least give you a list of #'s of places that may be able to help her. How can this world be s0oo big and still have NO place to go? IMPOSSIBLE! There are lots of single mother agencies out there that have these lists of #'s too. These are issues THEY deal with everyday! Here in Phx, there are quite a few of apt complexes that were turned into shelters for families and single moms ONLY. The Salvation Army is KNOWN to re-place dis-placed moms. AND they also have this list of #'s available for YOU. Don't just ';drop'; this just because it is going to be a lot of work. Take it upon yourself and get the ball rolling. Keep in mind, that there ARE waiting lists and HOOPS to jump through....but in the long run, the BIG picture is your goal. Keep THAT big picture in the forefront of your mind and strive for betterment.
Here (Irving, TX) there is a Dom Viol Center (866/925-7233) that has transitional housing which is free for two years while the mom works and gets on her feet. She needs to go to Legal Aid for a free divorce and get the child on disability.
My daughter went to federally sponsored special ed at her local school from three on. I don't know if this child meets the criteria, but it's free.
Sorry, this stuff is long-term.
Has she contacted the local shelter? They will provide her services even if she isn't staying there and they know how to do everything.
This situation always makes me very sad. Something I just cant understand or accept however is that her family does not have room to accomodate her or her children. Abusive relationships result in emotional scarring that often can not be healed but even worse death. So many murders are committed by those who apparently love their victims. If this was someone in my family I would make room.
Cant she just stay with you? Family or friends?
Somone in an abusive relationship is made to feel isolated and made to feel as if they have no one to run to.
Try to make her remind her she does have a lot of other options.
She must call a women's shelter who will keep there whereabout anonymous.
Why aren't you having her and her children move in with you?
What about you, if you are her friend and all???
Is it best to take the ';head-on'; approach or go about the subject cautiously when discussing marriage?
I know it's different for everyone. Im just asking to see how other people handle their big discussions!Is it best to take the ';head-on'; approach or go about the subject cautiously when discussing marriage?
I think that talking about it openly is important, but it's even more important not to push your partner to anything. So discussing it would be ok, while trying to persuade him/her would be very wrong, in my opinion.
I think that talking about it openly is important, but it's even more important not to push your partner to anything. So discussing it would be ok, while trying to persuade him/her would be very wrong, in my opinion.
Would you date someone that was a virgin until marriage?
If you were really interested in someone and you really liked them and you wanted to ask them out, would you change your mind if you found out they wanted to stay a virgin until marriage? (That includes no bjs and no fingering and no groping or anything - other than kissing) Would you still date them or would you change your mind and just stay friends? And can you please say how old you are with your answer? Thanks for anyone who takes the time to answer!Would you date someone that was a virgin until marriage?
yes i would... it doesn't matter about that if you love that person allot why does it matter that person loves the guys faith enough to still be in that spot that person probably gets made fun of because he hasn't got layed and that person is pressured but he will still be in his faith so ya i say go for it i wouldWould you date someone that was a virgin until marriage?
if i really liked or loved some i wouldn't care if they wanted to be a virgin or do anything sexual until marriage its there choice not mine and to tell you the truth i want to do the same thing like the whole no sex till marriage i hate people for the reason that is they just like girls with big breasts and pretty that doesn't matter at all i know that it seems like bull but i'm not lieing you love some one for them not for sex and the no sex till marriage is way more romantic... i'm 15
I'm middle aged, so no, I'm not interested in virgins. Nor am I interested in any man who was not a virgin but simply didn't want to engage in sex unless it was within marriage.
Don't get me wrong, virginity and waiting until marriage is sweet and very nice -- for idealistic, innocent, youngsters.
I would struck an agreement with them, to have affairs until we get married then. but I more likely would leave them. you got to know how it feels to be on bed with that person, before you sign a contract for life with such person.
beside in normal relationship, a lot of times, marriage means life-time without sex. so if you never have sex before marriage, you rarely will have one after marriage too.
I don't think I would change my mind. I guess it all depends if I were a virgin bride, too. Since I'm out of that running, having a virgin groom might fail between us on his part because he might want a virgin bride, too. It would be interesting to be a virgin couple on the night of your wedding. But then again....isn't that night meant to be magical? The first time is never really the best. =(
LOV3, yes, but finding somebody that's still a virgin at my age (btw, I'm 43) are pretty slim. Not impossible, but slim. Of course I'd still date them. See, I'd like to be the 1st man she's been with (sexually), but it ain't gonna happen. As George W. Bush would say, ';Fool me once --- shame on --- shame on you. Fool me --- you won't get fooled again.';
Yeah. I personally still am, and i plan on waiting until after marriage fro everything. i am 18, just out of high school, so that has also bneen on my mind a lot. i hope that all goes well. anyone who has any decency would respect those views and grow to admire them more
I am 25. I got married at 23, and was dating my husband since 19. We were engaged for 6 months before we got married. Both of us were virgins, at marriage, and we hadn't participated in any other sexual acts until our wedding night and let me tell you...it was nuts. But it was worth it.
My husband was a virgin when we married. We were 22. I would like to tell you that I feel so special that he ';saved'; himself for me, but I can't. His virginity was his choice and his past non existent sexual practices meant nothing to me.
i'm 25... physical pleasure is short term...communication, love, understanding and caring about each other is what is truly important in a relationship...u should respect ur significant others decisions...if u really have feeling for them..this shouldn't matter and will make the wait worth while...good luck
I would still go for them, it may have to deal with what they believe. Yo should discuss it with them. That's what im thinking. Grab a Bible and look up 2 Corinthians 6:13 =) this person could be a good influence on you.. hope things work out=)
I would marry a women like that I can't seem to find any! I believe A strong women like that will have high self esteem and great morals to raise a family with, I'm 28 and I refuse to date sl*ts anymore.
4 me..
ders nothing wrong f she wish 2 b virgin until marriage..
i am a filipina..
well!
in our culture we should hav 2 preserve our virginity until marriage..
one thing i can say,
it dpends on the culture she/he has...
and ders nothing wrong wid it
I was thinking this way until it happened. I was 24. We never got married. And I'm fine with it now. It's your personal choice and if it's so important for you, you will find a person who will wait.
I'm 26.
If I met a girl who was waiting for marriage, and she was THE one for me, I would respect her and wait - not pressure her. But none of that being engaged for 4 years crap either!
yeah i would date a virgin, or either that shouldn't really matter to nobody, love is what matters with the person not their sexual life.
its going to be tempting..but yes you can..but if the 'moments' comes,it will come naturely
im 18
yes, and that virgin thing is bullshit...
just start kissing a lot and you will eventually be able to control her when she gets horny.
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Yeah, I'll be 20 soon. But I so would. It shows values and your relationship would undoubtedly be more meaningful than physical so I see no problem in giving it a try.
Yeah of course...because if i truly loved them then it would matter to me how they felt. I would definetly date them because the person has good morals.
im 25 and it would be really difficult i dont think i could, unless i was absolutely infatuated with her.
I would date them, but idk how long it would be until it gets boring.
17- Ummm......Its all about how much you love that person. If you love them ENOUGH You would w8.
~But Good Luck On That.
I would definately still date them.
DB
No way of course I would still date him. I would respect his views. (Mine are basically the same lol)
I'm almost 14
a very situational question but i would say yes (21)
yes if i liked them. 16.
I would have nothing to do with them
I dream of this woman. I'm 25...although I dont think there's anything wrong with playing around just a lil bit.
yes
drop his pants and if he refuses, hes gay
yes i would... it doesn't matter about that if you love that person allot why does it matter that person loves the guys faith enough to still be in that spot that person probably gets made fun of because he hasn't got layed and that person is pressured but he will still be in his faith so ya i say go for it i wouldWould you date someone that was a virgin until marriage?
if i really liked or loved some i wouldn't care if they wanted to be a virgin or do anything sexual until marriage its there choice not mine and to tell you the truth i want to do the same thing like the whole no sex till marriage i hate people for the reason that is they just like girls with big breasts and pretty that doesn't matter at all i know that it seems like bull but i'm not lieing you love some one for them not for sex and the no sex till marriage is way more romantic... i'm 15
I'm middle aged, so no, I'm not interested in virgins. Nor am I interested in any man who was not a virgin but simply didn't want to engage in sex unless it was within marriage.
Don't get me wrong, virginity and waiting until marriage is sweet and very nice -- for idealistic, innocent, youngsters.
I would struck an agreement with them, to have affairs until we get married then. but I more likely would leave them. you got to know how it feels to be on bed with that person, before you sign a contract for life with such person.
beside in normal relationship, a lot of times, marriage means life-time without sex. so if you never have sex before marriage, you rarely will have one after marriage too.
I don't think I would change my mind. I guess it all depends if I were a virgin bride, too. Since I'm out of that running, having a virgin groom might fail between us on his part because he might want a virgin bride, too. It would be interesting to be a virgin couple on the night of your wedding. But then again....isn't that night meant to be magical? The first time is never really the best. =(
LOV3, yes, but finding somebody that's still a virgin at my age (btw, I'm 43) are pretty slim. Not impossible, but slim. Of course I'd still date them. See, I'd like to be the 1st man she's been with (sexually), but it ain't gonna happen. As George W. Bush would say, ';Fool me once --- shame on --- shame on you. Fool me --- you won't get fooled again.';
Yeah. I personally still am, and i plan on waiting until after marriage fro everything. i am 18, just out of high school, so that has also bneen on my mind a lot. i hope that all goes well. anyone who has any decency would respect those views and grow to admire them more
I am 25. I got married at 23, and was dating my husband since 19. We were engaged for 6 months before we got married. Both of us were virgins, at marriage, and we hadn't participated in any other sexual acts until our wedding night and let me tell you...it was nuts. But it was worth it.
My husband was a virgin when we married. We were 22. I would like to tell you that I feel so special that he ';saved'; himself for me, but I can't. His virginity was his choice and his past non existent sexual practices meant nothing to me.
i'm 25... physical pleasure is short term...communication, love, understanding and caring about each other is what is truly important in a relationship...u should respect ur significant others decisions...if u really have feeling for them..this shouldn't matter and will make the wait worth while...good luck
I would still go for them, it may have to deal with what they believe. Yo should discuss it with them. That's what im thinking. Grab a Bible and look up 2 Corinthians 6:13 =) this person could be a good influence on you.. hope things work out=)
I would marry a women like that I can't seem to find any! I believe A strong women like that will have high self esteem and great morals to raise a family with, I'm 28 and I refuse to date sl*ts anymore.
4 me..
ders nothing wrong f she wish 2 b virgin until marriage..
i am a filipina..
well!
in our culture we should hav 2 preserve our virginity until marriage..
one thing i can say,
it dpends on the culture she/he has...
and ders nothing wrong wid it
I was thinking this way until it happened. I was 24. We never got married. And I'm fine with it now. It's your personal choice and if it's so important for you, you will find a person who will wait.
I'm 26.
If I met a girl who was waiting for marriage, and she was THE one for me, I would respect her and wait - not pressure her. But none of that being engaged for 4 years crap either!
yeah i would date a virgin, or either that shouldn't really matter to nobody, love is what matters with the person not their sexual life.
its going to be tempting..but yes you can..but if the 'moments' comes,it will come naturely
im 18
yes, and that virgin thing is bullshit...
just start kissing a lot and you will eventually be able to control her when she gets horny.
%26lt;3
Yeah, I'll be 20 soon. But I so would. It shows values and your relationship would undoubtedly be more meaningful than physical so I see no problem in giving it a try.
Yeah of course...because if i truly loved them then it would matter to me how they felt. I would definetly date them because the person has good morals.
im 25 and it would be really difficult i dont think i could, unless i was absolutely infatuated with her.
I would date them, but idk how long it would be until it gets boring.
17- Ummm......Its all about how much you love that person. If you love them ENOUGH You would w8.
~But Good Luck On That.
I would definately still date them.
DB
No way of course I would still date him. I would respect his views. (Mine are basically the same lol)
I'm almost 14
a very situational question but i would say yes (21)
yes if i liked them. 16.
I would have nothing to do with them
I dream of this woman. I'm 25...although I dont think there's anything wrong with playing around just a lil bit.
yes
drop his pants and if he refuses, hes gay
How much of a difference does it make if a guy gets on his knee during marriage proposal?
Is it more convincing? Makes more of a story? like the movies.
i was just watching a show where a guy was nervous and had his hands in his pockets and his girlfriend was like ';really, ask already';. She was recalling it.How much of a difference does it make if a guy gets on his knee during marriage proposal?
It doesn't make any difference. It's just thought of as the 'right' way to do it because that is how it is usually done. But on one knee, standing, upside down, doesn't matter. The question is still the same.How much of a difference does it make if a guy gets on his knee during marriage proposal?
I suppose it would help if the woman is very much into traditional romantic gestures, and is expecting the proposal in that fashion; in such a case she may not think you are serious if you don't drop to one knee. Other women may not care, and would be just as happy with an email, lol.
Most women, it seems, suffers from pride, the first in list of 7 deadly sins. So to get a guy down to his knees (read as begging for her hand) may make her feel great. If I love a guy so much, I won't wanna humiliate him like that. Aren't we supposed to be equal?
well i would love for the guy that asked me that to be on one knee but its just because its old fashion and i think its sweet he would be on one knee just to ask me that but thats just my opinon
I don't think it make much of a difference ... my husband ask me a dinner and he didn't get down on his knees.
i was just watching a show where a guy was nervous and had his hands in his pockets and his girlfriend was like ';really, ask already';. She was recalling it.How much of a difference does it make if a guy gets on his knee during marriage proposal?
It doesn't make any difference. It's just thought of as the 'right' way to do it because that is how it is usually done. But on one knee, standing, upside down, doesn't matter. The question is still the same.How much of a difference does it make if a guy gets on his knee during marriage proposal?
I suppose it would help if the woman is very much into traditional romantic gestures, and is expecting the proposal in that fashion; in such a case she may not think you are serious if you don't drop to one knee. Other women may not care, and would be just as happy with an email, lol.
Most women, it seems, suffers from pride, the first in list of 7 deadly sins. So to get a guy down to his knees (read as begging for her hand) may make her feel great. If I love a guy so much, I won't wanna humiliate him like that. Aren't we supposed to be equal?
well i would love for the guy that asked me that to be on one knee but its just because its old fashion and i think its sweet he would be on one knee just to ask me that but thats just my opinon
I don't think it make much of a difference ... my husband ask me a dinner and he didn't get down on his knees.
If Gay Marriage is a Religious Issue then why not just get married by Justice of Peace?
Gay Marriage opponents say it is a religious issue and that is fine for them to think. Gays can marry in either their own church or by a justice of the peace. How will Conservatives feel about that, seems quite fair to me?If Gay Marriage is a Religious Issue then why not just get married by Justice of Peace?
Because that would ruin their theory! Gays could then get married in their own churches if it is a religious issue.If Gay Marriage is a Religious Issue then why not just get married by Justice of Peace?
Marriage is the joining of one woman and one man by God.The government is irreverent. True marriage between two men or two women can not exist because the union will not be blessed by God.
Further more the imposition of the government into marriage should be questioned on the grounds of the so called separation of Church and state. Governments imposition into marriage is unconstitutional.
The issue is will the government would force Christian Churches that don't consent to Homosexual Marriages to allow them. I could care less if the government allowed civil unions based upon the differences between church and state.
Marriage is a sacrament between man, woman and God.
Civil Unions is a contract between two individuals and the government.
Why should the government be allowed to dictate to the Church what they should allow?
Marriage is a joining of a MAN and WOMAN before God. If a church is marrying homosexuals then it is obviously not following Christian law since the Bible specifically denounces homosexuality. Thus, gays should not be married. The Bible says that a man will be united to his ';wife'; not to his husband.
That's fine, but it is the Gays that are making this an issue. They want it EXACTLY the same, or they will whine and cry that they are ';hated';. Which is clearly not the case.
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Soon people will want to marry their dogs and have it more than a civil union! The decline of our morals in this country, unbelievable!
Yes it is a religious issue. It goes against god's word. Also, I bet if you dug up the founding fathers and asked them what they said about Gay marriage, they would cuss you out and punch you in the face for being an Idiot liberal fagot!
Gay people should be allowed to get civil unions but not to use the word ';marriage'; to apply to their relationship.
Utah had to accpet the one-man one-woman definition of marriage to become a state.
The state should not use a religious term. That violates church/state. The term marriage should be removed and everyone should use the term ';civil union.';
Or, how about the gay community just settles for the civil unions or domestic partnerships. IT'S THE SAME FING THING.
Why defile our sacred term of marriage?
Why can't they just suck up their pride and hate for once?
THEY DON'T WANT TO ALLOW IT TO BE CALLED ';MARRIAGE';
BUT, I AM SURE THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF EQUAL LEGAL RIGHTS, NOT SPECIAL ONES, RIGHT CONSERVATIVES?
Yeah sounds fair. I'm a liberal, and I am very very pro gay marriage. People are just ignorant.
Gay Marriage and abortion are both individual morals and should not be a debate.
i agree.
under the law it should be legal.
the church cam decided wether or not they would like to recognize it.
ive always thought that.
Thank you.
It really doesn't have to be a big deal, conservatives are the only ones seeing a problem with this.
St. Valentine performed illegal marriages... and today we celebrate a whole day dedicated in his honor.
exactly.
good question.......idk
or gay people impregnate each other or can they do that
Because that would ruin their theory! Gays could then get married in their own churches if it is a religious issue.If Gay Marriage is a Religious Issue then why not just get married by Justice of Peace?
Marriage is the joining of one woman and one man by God.The government is irreverent. True marriage between two men or two women can not exist because the union will not be blessed by God.
Further more the imposition of the government into marriage should be questioned on the grounds of the so called separation of Church and state. Governments imposition into marriage is unconstitutional.
The issue is will the government would force Christian Churches that don't consent to Homosexual Marriages to allow them. I could care less if the government allowed civil unions based upon the differences between church and state.
Marriage is a sacrament between man, woman and God.
Civil Unions is a contract between two individuals and the government.
Why should the government be allowed to dictate to the Church what they should allow?
Marriage is a joining of a MAN and WOMAN before God. If a church is marrying homosexuals then it is obviously not following Christian law since the Bible specifically denounces homosexuality. Thus, gays should not be married. The Bible says that a man will be united to his ';wife'; not to his husband.
That's fine, but it is the Gays that are making this an issue. They want it EXACTLY the same, or they will whine and cry that they are ';hated';. Which is clearly not the case.
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Soon people will want to marry their dogs and have it more than a civil union! The decline of our morals in this country, unbelievable!
Yes it is a religious issue. It goes against god's word. Also, I bet if you dug up the founding fathers and asked them what they said about Gay marriage, they would cuss you out and punch you in the face for being an Idiot liberal fagot!
Gay people should be allowed to get civil unions but not to use the word ';marriage'; to apply to their relationship.
Utah had to accpet the one-man one-woman definition of marriage to become a state.
The state should not use a religious term. That violates church/state. The term marriage should be removed and everyone should use the term ';civil union.';
Or, how about the gay community just settles for the civil unions or domestic partnerships. IT'S THE SAME FING THING.
Why defile our sacred term of marriage?
Why can't they just suck up their pride and hate for once?
THEY DON'T WANT TO ALLOW IT TO BE CALLED ';MARRIAGE';
BUT, I AM SURE THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF EQUAL LEGAL RIGHTS, NOT SPECIAL ONES, RIGHT CONSERVATIVES?
Yeah sounds fair. I'm a liberal, and I am very very pro gay marriage. People are just ignorant.
Gay Marriage and abortion are both individual morals and should not be a debate.
i agree.
under the law it should be legal.
the church cam decided wether or not they would like to recognize it.
ive always thought that.
Thank you.
It really doesn't have to be a big deal, conservatives are the only ones seeing a problem with this.
St. Valentine performed illegal marriages... and today we celebrate a whole day dedicated in his honor.
exactly.
good question.......idk
or gay people impregnate each other or can they do that
How can a man who shared so much love and passion with mistress stay in his marriage?
I have been his lover for just under a year now, it has been the most amazin experience of my life. I too am married but was willing to leave it.He told me I showed him what love and passion really is. I feel so raw now, he told his wife and has cut me off completely. I do not understand why?How can a man who shared so much love and passion with mistress stay in his marriage?
BECAUSE HE USED YOU FOR FUN AND SEX. BUT HE REALLY DOES LOVE HIS WIFEHow can a man who shared so much love and passion with mistress stay in his marriage?
men who have an affair can usually compartmentalize the situation in their minds, basically switch in and out of the modes they need to be in to be the person they need to be in the situation. They can be attentive and loving husbands when at home, and exciting passionate lovers when with their mistress. Eventually compartments become too hard to maintain. Especially when one or the other compartmentalized part of thier life begins to suspect the other part, or in your case demand that he give up one of them.
If a man leaves his wife for another woman, especially a woman who is cheating on her own husband, he is a social outcast, and has taken up with someone who, like him, has already demonstrated a willingness to cheat instead of demand changes in the marriage they are in.
If children are involved, its common for a man to want to give up his mistress to keep his children.
the life of a man who leaves his family for another woman is pretty grim. society does not like such a man, and never fails to exact a very high emotional price for this behavior.
Sorry to tell you this so coldly, I know there are many reasons why people cannot stand to be in their marriages, and we do not provide a mechanism for people to leave an unhappy marriage that isn't painful for all concerned. It's a shame really, that we continue to promote an institution that fails half its participants so badly that they actually leave, and another half of the people who stay seem to be miserable.
So marriage seems to be about a 25% chance of leading to a happy life. hmmmmm
I won't jump on the bandwagon and berate you for what happened. Life happens and I follow ';Judge not, lest you be judged';. Affairs are never, ever easy and rarely turn out as a happily ever after.
You don't say whether you and your husband were happy before this affair occurred, or if it just happened for whatever reason and you two just fell into a pattern. If an affair started, there was something amiss way before it happened, whether anyone owned up to it or not.
It may be religious reasons, it may be financial, it may be that he is scared or realized that he truly didn't want to lose what he has with his wife. A million reasons and only he can provide your answer.
I feel what you are going through. I wish you much and hope you heal and learn. You figured out that there is still love and passion. Only YOU can make it work in your marriage as a partner with your husband or do the fair thing and let your husband go.
Something like this is really complicated. It may have been really amazing for you but for him it could have been just a fling. He obviously still wants to be with his wife. And if that's who he choose you have to respect that. Obviously he doesn't deserve you. All you can do is move on and whatever you do don't look back because if he did it once he'll do it again and you deserve much more than that. You said that you are married to maybe its time to stop running from that relationship. If you want to end it, then end it but do it for yourself not for some man.
GOOD LUCK
in whatever you do
Hello, I am in a very similar position to yourself. I have been with my lover for almost two years. We have discussed numerous times what we are going to do, to continue, stop or for him to leave, but we always just continue. Now it is heading towards a decision moment again, and this time I'm sure it really will be. I am reading your words and looking at the answers that people send, and it is clear that they have no idea at all what they are talking about and have no compassion at all. Do you know that he has really told his his wife? Are you really sure? If he has cut you off, it can be for many reasons, to make a go of it with her, without your relationship blurring the lines, she may have ordered him not to contact you (if she really now knows about you) and they may be working through the reality of the adultery together, to make a decision about what to do. etc etc.
First off, please know that it is taking everything in me not to be extremely rude to you about this.
His wife is probably wondering how a man who shared so much love and passion for probably a whole lot longer than a year could have had a mistress.
You should take this as a hint that you need to work on the marriage you are in. Both of your spouses deserve better. Be happy for him that he finally figured it out.
First of all you used each other for sex and passion. However there is a lot more to life than that. Even animals have more to their lives than humping one another when they are together. A good relationship has emotional involvement, sharing the same likes and dislikes, talking about common interests, and on and on. Sex is not all their is to love.
I commend you for your honesty. But, wow! you committed adultery with a married man and you are married too.....this is the world in which we live in, the moral decay of the institution of marriage! What ever happened to respect, dignity, honesty and loyalty to your mate that you vowed a lifelong commitment to? Whatever happens to you emotionally, mentally, spiritually, remember these truthful words ';We reap what we sow!';
Because you were the mistress.
Period.
Now you are stuck looking stupid because you put everything on the line for a man who was someone elses husband ...while you were someone elses wife.
You're not the first...nor the last woman to be fed the lines he fed you.
He has had his fun with you and now he is trying to save his marriage.
My suggest is to follow his example.....tell your husband about the affair and decide if you want to continue being married. Sounds like YOU don't...so let him be free to find a wife who will be faithful to him.
I have never heard of a situation like this having a happy ending....cheating and affairs that is. Not to say that it never happens....but I have yet to witness it.
I really hope all works out for you. Whatever happens please seek some counseling and start loving yourself a little more.
Perhaps he takes the ';till death do us part'; thing seriously and decided to straighten up his act and return to cleaving only unto her again. Perhaps he has kids he's unwilling to leave. Perhaps he owes his career and style of living to her and/or her family and is unwilling to leave that. Why are you surprised that someone who cheats on a spouse would breach someone else's trust as well?
While it was amazing and passionate for you, it could well have been just amazing sex to him. Men can go through the motions and tell you what you want to hear if it's an ends to a mean. He did his fling and instead of breaking up two marriages, he probably realized what he has with his wife (i.e. house, car, dog, 100% of his income, kids?, love?, etc.) was not worth losing over the amazing sex he was having with you.
Now work on your own marriage.
I think that if you're not happy in a relationship, then why be in it? End it! You shouldn't cheat on your spouse. It's wrong! That being said, you were nothing to him but a piece of a**. Did you really expect something to come out of this? For crying out loud, you are two married adults sneaking around like kids. Neither his wife nor your husband deserve either one of you.
I would imagine that he feels guilty, and then there are economic reasons as well. Sometimes love isn't enough. I guess all you can do is try to remember the good times, and try not to get too down on yourself about it. It's always risky business being in your situation.
The only one that can answer your question is your former lover.
I can speculate that maybe the responsibility to his wife outweighed his passion for you.
But it would just be speculation. The answer you seek lie in that man not here. Only he knows the reason why he did what he did.
Just maybe..
You showed him how to love so he knew he did wrong with his wife. Now he would practice what he learned from you with his wife.
Why not with you? He might be afraid that once you can leave your current relationship, you might do it again to him.
The answer is simple. He wanted sex and passion from you. But remember, he will NEVER love you the way he loves his wife (unless he is not in love with her anymore). Maybe he finally came to his sense and realized how much he loves her. Just let it be.
Because you were just a game to him. He lied to get what he wanted, you gave it to him and now hes done with you. Karma's a B**** hun. Quit screwin around with married men and tend to you own marriage.
It is clear as a crystal water,that he never even think to leave his wife.He only enjoy to be with you.There are thousands of men doing the same thing with women; around planet earth.Good question.
My guess is that it was only passionate because it was naughty. He has a life built around his relationship with his wife and prefers if over the fling he had with you.
Maybe he realized he loved his wife more. I'm surprised his wife forgave him. What both of you did was wrong. How shameful.
he is trying to do the wright thing so u need to do nthat to when somone hits you to the cub hit him!
You scared him off by saying you wanted to be with him full time. He was just looking for some fun in the hay.
He chose to work things out with his wife.
Only if things dont work out would he leave.
...Money and social status. (Follow the money and you'll find the desire of ';his'; heart)
This is an old story.
Stop messing with married men. Find your own man!
he is a two-timing SCUM BAGlip gloss
BECAUSE HE USED YOU FOR FUN AND SEX. BUT HE REALLY DOES LOVE HIS WIFEHow can a man who shared so much love and passion with mistress stay in his marriage?
men who have an affair can usually compartmentalize the situation in their minds, basically switch in and out of the modes they need to be in to be the person they need to be in the situation. They can be attentive and loving husbands when at home, and exciting passionate lovers when with their mistress. Eventually compartments become too hard to maintain. Especially when one or the other compartmentalized part of thier life begins to suspect the other part, or in your case demand that he give up one of them.
If a man leaves his wife for another woman, especially a woman who is cheating on her own husband, he is a social outcast, and has taken up with someone who, like him, has already demonstrated a willingness to cheat instead of demand changes in the marriage they are in.
If children are involved, its common for a man to want to give up his mistress to keep his children.
the life of a man who leaves his family for another woman is pretty grim. society does not like such a man, and never fails to exact a very high emotional price for this behavior.
Sorry to tell you this so coldly, I know there are many reasons why people cannot stand to be in their marriages, and we do not provide a mechanism for people to leave an unhappy marriage that isn't painful for all concerned. It's a shame really, that we continue to promote an institution that fails half its participants so badly that they actually leave, and another half of the people who stay seem to be miserable.
So marriage seems to be about a 25% chance of leading to a happy life. hmmmmm
I won't jump on the bandwagon and berate you for what happened. Life happens and I follow ';Judge not, lest you be judged';. Affairs are never, ever easy and rarely turn out as a happily ever after.
You don't say whether you and your husband were happy before this affair occurred, or if it just happened for whatever reason and you two just fell into a pattern. If an affair started, there was something amiss way before it happened, whether anyone owned up to it or not.
It may be religious reasons, it may be financial, it may be that he is scared or realized that he truly didn't want to lose what he has with his wife. A million reasons and only he can provide your answer.
I feel what you are going through. I wish you much and hope you heal and learn. You figured out that there is still love and passion. Only YOU can make it work in your marriage as a partner with your husband or do the fair thing and let your husband go.
Something like this is really complicated. It may have been really amazing for you but for him it could have been just a fling. He obviously still wants to be with his wife. And if that's who he choose you have to respect that. Obviously he doesn't deserve you. All you can do is move on and whatever you do don't look back because if he did it once he'll do it again and you deserve much more than that. You said that you are married to maybe its time to stop running from that relationship. If you want to end it, then end it but do it for yourself not for some man.
GOOD LUCK
in whatever you do
Hello, I am in a very similar position to yourself. I have been with my lover for almost two years. We have discussed numerous times what we are going to do, to continue, stop or for him to leave, but we always just continue. Now it is heading towards a decision moment again, and this time I'm sure it really will be. I am reading your words and looking at the answers that people send, and it is clear that they have no idea at all what they are talking about and have no compassion at all. Do you know that he has really told his his wife? Are you really sure? If he has cut you off, it can be for many reasons, to make a go of it with her, without your relationship blurring the lines, she may have ordered him not to contact you (if she really now knows about you) and they may be working through the reality of the adultery together, to make a decision about what to do. etc etc.
First off, please know that it is taking everything in me not to be extremely rude to you about this.
His wife is probably wondering how a man who shared so much love and passion for probably a whole lot longer than a year could have had a mistress.
You should take this as a hint that you need to work on the marriage you are in. Both of your spouses deserve better. Be happy for him that he finally figured it out.
First of all you used each other for sex and passion. However there is a lot more to life than that. Even animals have more to their lives than humping one another when they are together. A good relationship has emotional involvement, sharing the same likes and dislikes, talking about common interests, and on and on. Sex is not all their is to love.
I commend you for your honesty. But, wow! you committed adultery with a married man and you are married too.....this is the world in which we live in, the moral decay of the institution of marriage! What ever happened to respect, dignity, honesty and loyalty to your mate that you vowed a lifelong commitment to? Whatever happens to you emotionally, mentally, spiritually, remember these truthful words ';We reap what we sow!';
Because you were the mistress.
Period.
Now you are stuck looking stupid because you put everything on the line for a man who was someone elses husband ...while you were someone elses wife.
You're not the first...nor the last woman to be fed the lines he fed you.
He has had his fun with you and now he is trying to save his marriage.
My suggest is to follow his example.....tell your husband about the affair and decide if you want to continue being married. Sounds like YOU don't...so let him be free to find a wife who will be faithful to him.
I have never heard of a situation like this having a happy ending....cheating and affairs that is. Not to say that it never happens....but I have yet to witness it.
I really hope all works out for you. Whatever happens please seek some counseling and start loving yourself a little more.
Perhaps he takes the ';till death do us part'; thing seriously and decided to straighten up his act and return to cleaving only unto her again. Perhaps he has kids he's unwilling to leave. Perhaps he owes his career and style of living to her and/or her family and is unwilling to leave that. Why are you surprised that someone who cheats on a spouse would breach someone else's trust as well?
While it was amazing and passionate for you, it could well have been just amazing sex to him. Men can go through the motions and tell you what you want to hear if it's an ends to a mean. He did his fling and instead of breaking up two marriages, he probably realized what he has with his wife (i.e. house, car, dog, 100% of his income, kids?, love?, etc.) was not worth losing over the amazing sex he was having with you.
Now work on your own marriage.
I think that if you're not happy in a relationship, then why be in it? End it! You shouldn't cheat on your spouse. It's wrong! That being said, you were nothing to him but a piece of a**. Did you really expect something to come out of this? For crying out loud, you are two married adults sneaking around like kids. Neither his wife nor your husband deserve either one of you.
I would imagine that he feels guilty, and then there are economic reasons as well. Sometimes love isn't enough. I guess all you can do is try to remember the good times, and try not to get too down on yourself about it. It's always risky business being in your situation.
The only one that can answer your question is your former lover.
I can speculate that maybe the responsibility to his wife outweighed his passion for you.
But it would just be speculation. The answer you seek lie in that man not here. Only he knows the reason why he did what he did.
Just maybe..
You showed him how to love so he knew he did wrong with his wife. Now he would practice what he learned from you with his wife.
Why not with you? He might be afraid that once you can leave your current relationship, you might do it again to him.
The answer is simple. He wanted sex and passion from you. But remember, he will NEVER love you the way he loves his wife (unless he is not in love with her anymore). Maybe he finally came to his sense and realized how much he loves her. Just let it be.
Because you were just a game to him. He lied to get what he wanted, you gave it to him and now hes done with you. Karma's a B**** hun. Quit screwin around with married men and tend to you own marriage.
It is clear as a crystal water,that he never even think to leave his wife.He only enjoy to be with you.There are thousands of men doing the same thing with women; around planet earth.Good question.
My guess is that it was only passionate because it was naughty. He has a life built around his relationship with his wife and prefers if over the fling he had with you.
Maybe he realized he loved his wife more. I'm surprised his wife forgave him. What both of you did was wrong. How shameful.
he is trying to do the wright thing so u need to do nthat to when somone hits you to the cub hit him!
You scared him off by saying you wanted to be with him full time. He was just looking for some fun in the hay.
He chose to work things out with his wife.
Only if things dont work out would he leave.
...Money and social status. (Follow the money and you'll find the desire of ';his'; heart)
This is an old story.
Stop messing with married men. Find your own man!
he is a two-timing SCUM BAG
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